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| From | Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.misc |
| Subject | Re: Mozilla's new vision |
| Date | 2024-01-03 16:22 -0300 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <87o7e2mclh.fsf@yaxenu.org> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <umvjfr$2ca36$3@dont-email.me> <871qb0pedu.fsf@yaxenu.org> <un1h84$2p5qd$3@dont-email.me> <87v88bne80.fsf@yaxenu.org> <87v88aakij.fsf@tilde.institute> |
yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:
> Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> writes:
>
>> I don't even care if my text editor is the GNU EMACS or not, as long
>> as it behaves just like it.
>
> Phase 1 - denial:
>
> + "There is no Emacs locked in syndrome!"
>
> + "I can use every editor as long as it behaves like Emacs."
>
> + ...
>
>
> Welcome to the anonymous Emacsers! Take a seat, grab a cookie...
:-)
I like it because of the Lisp language. The Lisp language seems to help
it to be what it is, self-documented et cetera. It is important even
for the pleasure we derive from it while using it. Technical people
seem to like software that gives them a sense of control, which requires
a precise understanding of the software. So a self-documented
interactively-modify-it software helps us to understand precisely how it
works, which then turns into a enjoyable-to-use system.
``The details of the interaction matter, ease of use matters, but I
want more than correct details, more than a system that is easy to
learn or to use: I want a system that is enjoyable to use. This is
an important, dominating design philosophy, easier to say than to
do. It implies developing systems that provide a strong sense of
understanding and control. This means tools that reveal their
underlying conceptual model and allow for interaction, tools that
emphasize comfort, ease, and pleasure of use [...]. A major factor
in this debate is the feeling of control that the user has over the
operations that are being performed. A `powerful,' `intelligent'
system can lead to the well documented problems of `overautomation,'
causing the user to be a passive observer of operations, no longer
in control of either what operations take place, or of how they are
done. On the other hand, systems that are not sufficiently powerful
or intelligent can leave too large a gap in the mappings from
intention to action execution and from system state to psychological
interpretation. The result is that operation and interpretation are
complex and difficult, and the user again feels out of control,
distanced from the system.'' -- ``User Centered System Design'',
capítulo 3, ``cognitive engineering'', ``on the quality of
human-computer interaction'', pages 48--49, Donald A. Norman, CRC
Press, 1986, ISBN 0-89859-872-9.
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