Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Julieta Shem Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Mozilla's new vision Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2024 16:22:25 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <87o7e2mclh.fsf@yaxenu.org> References: <87le9bto0k.fsf@yaxenu.org> <87y1dbays6.fsf@tilde.institute> <87plynrqj4.fsf@yaxenu.org> <871qb0pedu.fsf@yaxenu.org> <87v88bne80.fsf@yaxenu.org> <87v88aakij.fsf@tilde.institute> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="75a951e1f41ca440471c166e12474bef"; logging-data="3484969"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/GPSKldmU09HPLSKmwJDdpXbN1mIxOq8Y=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:IXM3wy9i98yDWCY4xDPcOZ4bTpw= sha1:BwAq3NFWg7IBdfamYO4GE59pZYQ= Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:23809 yeti writes: > Julieta Shem writes: > >> I don't even care if my text editor is the GNU EMACS or not, as long >> as it behaves just like it. > > Phase 1 - denial: > > + "There is no Emacs locked in syndrome!" > > + "I can use every editor as long as it behaves like Emacs." > > + ... > > > Welcome to the anonymous Emacsers! Take a seat, grab a cookie... :-) I like it because of the Lisp language. The Lisp language seems to help it to be what it is, self-documented et cetera. It is important even for the pleasure we derive from it while using it. Technical people seem to like software that gives them a sense of control, which requires a precise understanding of the software. So a self-documented interactively-modify-it software helps us to understand precisely how it works, which then turns into a enjoyable-to-use system. ``The details of the interaction matter, ease of use matters, but I want more than correct details, more than a system that is easy to learn or to use: I want a system that is enjoyable to use. This is an important, dominating design philosophy, easier to say than to do. It implies developing systems that provide a strong sense of understanding and control. This means tools that reveal their underlying conceptual model and allow for interaction, tools that emphasize comfort, ease, and pleasure of use [...]. A major factor in this debate is the feeling of control that the user has over the operations that are being performed. A `powerful,' `intelligent' system can lead to the well documented problems of `overautomation,' causing the user to be a passive observer of operations, no longer in control of either what operations take place, or of how they are done. On the other hand, systems that are not sufficiently powerful or intelligent can leave too large a gap in the mappings from intention to action execution and from system state to psychological interpretation. The result is that operation and interpretation are complex and difficult, and the user again feels out of control, distanced from the system.'' -- ``User Centered System Design'', capĂ­tulo 3, ``cognitive engineering'', ``on the quality of human-computer interaction'', pages 48--49, Donald A. Norman, CRC Press, 1986, ISBN 0-89859-872-9.