Re: init is the initialiser

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Date	Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:54:31 -0800
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On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Devin Jeanpierre
>> Destroying memory is comparatively easy, as you say -- just make the
>> object's internal state "invalid", rather than adding anything to the
>> language.
>
> Yeah. Works fine if you have a cooperative system that checks that
> state every time; otherwise, it'd need at least some language support
> (the goal is to have its destructor called and all its references
> wiped, so resources get released).

I guess my point is that I don't see what you need on top of extension
modules. Same for previous paragraph.

-- Devin

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Re: __init__ is the initialiser Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-01-31 22:16 -0500
  Re: __init__ is the initialiser Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-02-01 05:23 +0000
    Re: __init__ is the initialiser Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-01 00:25 -0500
      Re: __init__ is the initialiser Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-02-03 12:15 +1300
        Re: __init__ is the initialiser Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 10:27 +1100
          Re: __init__ is the initialiser Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-02 18:40 -0500
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 11:07 +1100
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-02-02 17:24 -0800
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 12:37 +1100
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-02-02 17:54 -0800
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-02-03 08:44 -0500
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Nicholas Cole <nicholas.cole@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 13:50 +0000
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 10:44 -0700
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 04:57 +1100
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Nicholas Cole <nicholas.cole@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 19:57 +0000
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-02-03 19:38 -0500
        Re: __init__ is the initialiser Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-02-02 19:35 -0500
          Re: __init__ is the initialiser Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-02 19:45 -0500
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-02-02 22:14 -0500
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-02-02 21:15 -0600
            Re: __init__ is the initialiser Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-02-03 00:06 -0500
              Re: __init__ is the initialiser Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-03 00:12 -0500
                Re: __init__ is the initialiser Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 16:49 +1100
                Re: __init__ is the initialiser Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-02 21:34 -0800
    Re: __init__ is the initialiser Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 21:31 -0800

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