Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.030 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'modules.': 0.16; "object's": 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(the': 0.22; 'feb': 0.22; 'memory': 0.22; 'otherwise,': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'fine': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'extension': 0.26; 'references': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'easy,': 0.31; 'time;': 0.31; 'guess': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'checks': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'previous': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'goal': 0.75; "it'd": 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=u0AF1Q8gIVWYeyF8KjeDHIGKupRhLey9zTcc5CIQxRI=; b=dQWg4WQle3jQ5JxiJR7fiAw1+y0lfkROeZOnnBi8T+52GrGo4PzIcYngjJ0HtCc/JM AEOiHoV5LOeHPAh4APxgBjB7Ov37DMZneVNGrdOVLyocvKOS6SjKyVMVndJdX4s4+8EL uU2zQ0Xp6JiuelB7kIdWRbRKR5TKnzCoZmBz/lBXLrnG1GLjyUZRKIoLyyFyMLXz84Mn ZHAy34trE5UbKaMdP4kkh74Pjlq/prVEqmaA+0p1bQPx2yHt7JzJpOIoHTKxyhbdHR5V ulnRhFFczutzozc39CnV8trX1d7P/uGnrM2qcAu2GVeOAwKNeG86a0Vc5/44sTUcOK/Y wCNQ== X-Received: by 10.224.28.197 with SMTP id n5mr49542149qac.43.1391392512320; Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:55:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <858utviwgs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <52EC3C40.7080402@stoneleaf.us> <52ec84bc$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Devin Jeanpierre Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:54:31 -0800 Subject: Re: __init__ is the initialiser To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1391392514 news.xs4all.nl 2965 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57287 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:65311 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Devin Jeanpierre >> Destroying memory is comparatively easy, as you say -- just make the >> object's internal state "invalid", rather than adding anything to the >> language. > > Yeah. Works fine if you have a cooperative system that checks that > state every time; otherwise, it'd need at least some language support > (the goal is to have its destructor called and all its references > wiped, so resources get released). I guess my point is that I don't see what you need on top of extension modules. Same for previous paragraph. -- Devin