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On Sun, 08 May 2011 10:54:57 +1200, Gregory Ewing
<greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:

> 
> What would *you* call a[i]?
>
	Depending upon the nature of the beast, I'd be tempted to call it a
"fully qualified name" or a "partially qualified name"

	a = [1, 2, 4, ("c", "d", "e")]

	a		is fully qualified if the object of interest is the entire
list		 [1, 2, 4, ["c", "d", "e"]]
		it is partially qualified when the object of interest is an
element of the list

	a[i]		is fully qualified if "i" represents an index of 0..3
and one is interested in any single element of the list, including the
sublist as a whole
		it is partially qualified if "i" represents the index 3 AND one
is interested in an element of the sublist.

	a[1] = 10

binds the fully qualified name "a[1]" to the object representing "10".
This just happens to also mutate the object denoted by the partially
qualified name "a".

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          Re: What other languages use the same data model as Python? Hans Georg Schaathun <hg@schaathun.net> - 2011-05-04 21:20 +0100
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              Re: What other languages use the same data model as Python? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-05 14:25 +0000
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      Re: What other languages use the same data model as Python? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2011-05-04 09:40 -0600
        Re: What other languages use the same data model as Python? sturlamolden <sturla@molden.no> - 2011-05-04 09:40 -0700
          Re: What other languages use the same data model as Python? Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2011-05-04 13:15 -0400
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