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What is Model View Presenter. (Was: Hairy generics question)

From	Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer, comp.lang.java.gui
Subject	What is Model View Presenter. (Was: Hairy generics question)
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Date	2012-02-26 10:22 -0800

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On 2/26/12 9:13 AM, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
> I'm laying this stuff out there simply to indicate that despite all the
> terminology, much of it redundant and confusing and artificial, that MVC
> and MVP are usefully different and real architectures, and that
> Presenter is definitely not Controller.

I guess I had never heard of MVP, and just assumed the OP was recreating 
MVC without clearly understanding the concept. This apparently was 
hubris on my part, and I humbly apologize for that.

I'm going to do a web search to learn more about MVP architecture later 
today, but I want to know what it means to people in this group as well, 
X-Posting to clj.gui, since it seems relevant.

So, fellow Java engineers and Pragmatic Programmers, how would you 
compare and contrast MVC vs MVP? Are there design/clarity benefits to 
one over the other? That does "Presenter" mean to you?

Thanks,
Daniel.

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            What is Model View Presenter. (Was: Hairy generics question) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-02-26 10:22 -0800
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