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Re: Java EE on tomcat?

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On 9/8/2011 3:08 PM, nroberts wrote:
> On Sep 8, 11:22 am, Lew<lewbl...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>> That said, most systems run better on Tomcat, or better yet on
>> Apache Web Server + Tomcat, anyway.  EJBs are a pain in the butt
>> most of the time, and queues have specialized use cases you might
>> not even have.  For the stuff you most likely care about, namely
>> web pages, Expression Language (EL) the Java Persistence API (JPA),
>> and JSF/XHTML, Tomcat is eminently suitable.
>
> I'm completely new to Java but in reading tutorials and such I'd
> imagine writing Java web applications without EJB, especially the
> current standard, would just add a bunch of work.

If the app you will be developing does not require any of the stuff
you are missing, then it will not have any impact at all.

That is not an unlikely scenario.

> What could those concerns be?  The program I'll be writing is
> basically this thing that imports data into a database, does some
> manipulations and comparisons, and outputs a "report" in a particular
> command language.  Various aspects of its use need to be limited by
> access, pay-grade, responsibility...etc...  Based on my limited
> understanding, what exists now doesn't need to be THAT secure, but
> what they may want to do later would need a great deal of security.
> Is it reasonable to write such a thing with the parts of EE possible
> to use with tomcat?

Yes.

>> Whichever way you go, push for the latest stable version of the app
>> server or Tomcat, and for Java 6 or 7 as the base language. Push hard.
>> There's no valid reason to go with Java 5 or J2EE in the platform, given
>> backward compatibility and the absence of license fees. Only development
>> and maintenance costs should weigh into that decision, and use of
>> outdated and obsolete tools affects those rather severely.

> One thing I've pushed on is trying to upgrade our JBOSS server to the
> current version (we're currently stuck on 4.0).  I don't really know
> what's going to be required to do this, how much work, etc...but I
> felt it worth looking into.  Just got a push-back hard, from multiple
> directions, saying that we're rewriting the whole thing to only use
> tomcat anyway.

It seems as if it has already been evaluated and a decision has
been made.

Arne

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Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 10:53 -0700
  Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 11:22 -0700
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 12:08 -0700
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:48 -0400
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:56 -0400
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  Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:41 -0400
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? Torsten Kirschner <torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> - 2011-09-19 00:30 +0200
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-18 20:44 -0300
        Re: Java EE on tomcat? Torsten Kirschner <torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> - 2011-09-20 00:20 +0200
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            Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 08:45 -0700
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:19 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:31 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-21 17:37 -0300
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:29 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 14:26 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 10:27 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 13:30 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-21 20:40 -0400
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-21 20:35 -0400
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 10:23 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 13:38 -0700
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-19 21:55 -0400
        Re: Java EE on tomcat? eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2011-09-21 04:38 +0000
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            Re: Java EE on tomcat? eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2011-09-22 02:41 +0000
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              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 08:39 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-09-22 22:58 +0200
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