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Re: Java EE on tomcat?

From Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Java EE on tomcat?
Date 2011-09-08 11:22 -0700
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On Thursday, September 8, 2011 10:53:18 AM UTC-7, nroberts wrote:
> If higher ups decided that I had to work with Tomcat...no JBoss or
> glassfish or anything...what limitations am I looking at?  What parts
> of Java EE become unavailable to me?

Some of the management console stuff goes away, queues go away, EJBs by default go away but you can add them back with Apache OpenEJB.  Why you'd want to, though, that's another question.

Who are these "higher ups" and what makes them think they're qualified to make technology decisions?

That said, most systems run better on Tomcat, or better yet on Apache Web Server + Tomcat, anyway.  EJBs are a pain in the butt most of the time, and queues have specialized use cases you might not even have.  For the stuff you most likely care about, namely web pages, Expression Language (EL) the Java Persistence API (JPA), and JSF/XHTML, Tomcat is eminently suitable.

Configuration differs.  Most application servers like JBoss and Glassfish work through their own management consoles (web apps in their own right).  With Tomcat you configure your DBMS connections through the server.xml and web.xml files.  The Tomcat docs explain it well.

Have you studied the Tomcat docs yet?  You should.

What are the decision factors in the choice between Tomcat and a more robust app server?  Even if you aren't the decision maker you should have insight into the balance sheet in that choice.  If they make a bad decision and you haven't done your fiduciary duty, then it's *your* fault.

Whichever way you go, push for the latest stable version of the app server or Tomcat, and for Java 6 or 7 as the base language.  Push hard.  There's no valid reason to go with Java 5 or J2EE in the platform, given backward compatibility and the absence of license fees.  Only development and maintenance costs should weigh into that decision, and use of outdated and obsolete tools affects those rather severely.

-- 
Lew

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Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 10:53 -0700
  Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 11:22 -0700
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 12:08 -0700
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:48 -0400
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:56 -0400
  Re: Java EE on tomcat? markspace <-@.> - 2011-09-08 12:36 -0700
  Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:41 -0400
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? Torsten Kirschner <torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> - 2011-09-19 00:30 +0200
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-18 20:44 -0300
        Re: Java EE on tomcat? Torsten Kirschner <torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> - 2011-09-20 00:20 +0200
          Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-20 05:50 -0300
            Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 08:45 -0700
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:19 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:31 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-21 17:37 -0300
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:29 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 14:26 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-21 20:40 -0400
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-21 20:35 -0400
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-19 21:55 -0400
        Re: Java EE on tomcat? eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2011-09-21 04:38 +0000
          Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-21 20:29 -0400
            Re: Java EE on tomcat? eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2011-09-22 02:41 +0000
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-22 06:08 -0300

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