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In article <4e7a8166$0$281$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>On 9/21/2011 12:38 AM, EricF wrote:
>> In article<4e77f29e$0$311$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>,
> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=<arne@vajhoej.dk>  wrote:
>>> On 9/18/2011 6:30 PM, Torsten Kirschner wrote:
>>>> Den 08.09.2011 23:41, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>>>>> On 9/8/2011 1:53 PM, nroberts wrote:
>>>>>> If higher ups decided that I had to work with Tomcat...no JBoss or
>>>>>> glassfish or anything...what limitations am I looking at?  What parts
>>>>>> of Java EE become unavailable to me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomcat is a web container only (Java EE Web Profile in
>>>>> Java EE 6 terminology).
>>>> [...]
>>>>> You don't have EJB, JCA, JTA, JMS etc..
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Using the Spring Framework ( http://www.springsource.org/ ), one gets
>>>> most of the above, except EJB, I guess. Add Hybernate and you're set.
>>>
>>> I don't think Spring has JCA.
>>>
>>> I don't think Spring provides JTA or JMS - it just allows to
>>> interface other providers.
>>>
>>> It is Hibernate not Hybernate.
>>>
>>> Spring really does not provide much of the standards.
>
>> I do think Spring is nice but it doesn't try to provide the standards (JEE).
>> When it first came out, it was a lot easier to use than much of the JEE
> stack.
>> These days JEE has been simplified.
>
>But to me it is difficult to see why go with a non-standard
>solution exists when a standard solution exists that does the
>same.
>
>Arne
>
>
Arne, I certainly agree with your comment in general. Personally I like Java 
and many parts of JEE, but I'm not sure how "standard" Oracle solutions are. 
There are several JEE servers so there are a few options - Websphere, 
Weblogic, JBoss, Glassfish, ... I must be missing 1 or 2. But have you ever 
ported an EJB from 1 to the other? I have. Standard solutions just aren't that 
standard anymore.

The LAMP stack, JEE, Spring are all different ways to do similar things. 
Options are nice.

Eric

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Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 10:53 -0700
  Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 11:22 -0700
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 12:08 -0700
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:48 -0400
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:56 -0400
  Re: Java EE on tomcat? markspace <-@.> - 2011-09-08 12:36 -0700
  Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-08 17:41 -0400
    Re: Java EE on tomcat? Torsten Kirschner <torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> - 2011-09-19 00:30 +0200
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-18 20:44 -0300
        Re: Java EE on tomcat? Torsten Kirschner <torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> - 2011-09-20 00:20 +0200
          Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-20 05:50 -0300
            Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 08:45 -0700
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:19 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:31 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-21 17:37 -0300
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 11:29 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-21 14:26 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 10:27 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 13:30 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-21 20:40 -0400
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-21 20:35 -0400
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 10:23 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 13:38 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-22 21:15 -0400
      Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-19 21:55 -0400
        Re: Java EE on tomcat? eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2011-09-21 04:38 +0000
          Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-21 20:29 -0400
            Re: Java EE on tomcat? eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2011-09-22 02:41 +0000
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-09-22 06:08 -0300
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-22 21:18 -0400
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-22 08:39 -0700
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-09-22 22:58 +0200
              Re: Java EE on tomcat? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-09-22 18:47 -0400
                Re: Java EE on tomcat? eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2011-09-24 04:45 +0000

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