Re: when forth pc with a firefox liek browser?

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: when forth pc with a firefox liek browser?
Date	2013-05-11 22:35 -0700
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rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
> You see embedded as a headache, I see it as simple.  I don't know
> Linux and see products like the pi and BB as needlessly complex. 

I guess it depends on your application and where you're coming from.
I'm a software guy who programs servers all day and dabbles in embedded
stuff on and off, rather than the other way around.  I'm pretty used to
Linux, and I find it a lot easier to program in garbage collected,
memory-safe languages (Python, Erlang, whatever), which don't really run
well on small MCU's.  That has a price in memory and cpu consumption,
but these boards make that price pretty affordable.

The BBB is also very easy to start using.  Plug it into your PC's USB
port and it appears as a flash drive.  It has 2gb of flash on board with
Linux preloaded, so you don't need an SD card.  It even comes with a USB
cable in the box.  Once you configure it, you can plug it into your LAN
and access it from anywhere.  All the tools (compilers etc) can run
directly on the board, no need to set up a cross development system.  It
can run almost any type of Linux application code.  The amount of stuff
that's out there is unbelievable.

> The other issue is the power consumption.  

Yes, this is true, the BBB isn't so good for portable stuff that has to
run a long time on a battery.  If you're powering it externally though,
the 2 watts or so that it uses is no big deal.  It doesn't need rack
space, cooling fans, or anything like that.  You can power it from a
wall wart or a USB port.

> Oh yeah, is the BB still only supported through that Google Group?

I don't know about the google group.  There's a web forum at
element14.com and there's the #beagle channel on irc.freenode.net.  The
IRC channel is pretty lively.

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