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| Started by | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-10-17 23:04 +1100 |
| Last post | 2017-11-08 08:00 +1100 |
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gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-17 23:04 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 05:15 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 10:12 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 14:23 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 14:27 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 05:54 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 13:20 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 06:06 -0700
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 13:21 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-18 21:53 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 09:13 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-19 22:06 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-20 13:28 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-21 20:16 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-21 23:47 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-22 11:32 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-22 00:58 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 04:11 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 07:34 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-22 21:18 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 10:01 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-23 21:56 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-24 09:04 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-23 22:17 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-24 09:41 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-24 21:50 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-25 09:57 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-25 22:07 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-26 10:07 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-26 21:59 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 10:46 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-28 02:41 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-28 15:17 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-28 23:38 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-29 14:18 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-29 21:15 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-30 09:11 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-30 21:30 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-31 08:40 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-30 21:52 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-31 09:49 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-31 21:35 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-01 12:53 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-02 22:11 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-03 10:36 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-05 21:33 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-06 14:16 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-06 21:33 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-07 11:08 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-07 20:43 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-08 08:00 +1100
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-31 09:49 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f5poj7Fd6s2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61825 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:ot86ue$20a$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? >>>>>> >>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. >>>>> >>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>> >>>> Never said that. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>> >>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >> >> Never said that. >> >>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to >>> them), >> >> Never said that either. > > So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle > service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? Never said that either. > Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your > computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, Never said that either. > this must be the method you use to prevent > Google from reading all your Email data. You are wrong, as always.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-31 21:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61827 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. >>>>>> >>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>> >>>>> Never said that. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>> >>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>> >>> Never said that. >>> >>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to >>>> them), >>> >>> Never said that either. >> >> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? > > Never said that either. I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". So it might be a man-in-the-middle service encrypting the data before it gets to Google. As I said before though, that's a silly amount of work to go to just to use their Email service. >> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, > > Never said that either. But you just said that you never denied it: >>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>> >>>>> Never said that. >>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to >>>> them), >>> >>> Never said that either. >> this must be the method you use to prevent >> Google from reading all your Email data. > > You are wrong, as always. You are confused. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-11-01 12:53 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f5snoqF3nsjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61861 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>> >>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>> >>>> Never said that. >>>> >>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to >>>>> them), >>>> >>>> Never said that either. >>> >>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >> >> Never said that either. > > I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. Can't last. > So it might be a man-in-the-middle service > encrypting the data before it gets to Google. Nope. > As I said before though, that's a silly amount > of work to go to just to use their Email service. Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >> >> Never said that either. > > But you just said that you never denied it: Like hell I ever did. >>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that. > >>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to >>>>> them), >>>> >>>> Never said that either. > > >>> this must be the method you use to prevent >>> Google from reading all your Email data. >> >> You are wrong, as always. > > You are confused. Nope, you have never had a fucking clue.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-11-02 22:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61893 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message > news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>> >>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>> >>>>> Never said that. >>>>> >>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to >>>>>> them), >>>>> >>>>> Never said that either. >>>> >>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>> >>> Never said that either. >> >> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". > > Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. > > Can't last. > >> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. > > Nope. So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, but not Google doing the encrypting. However Google doing the encryption means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. >> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >> of work to go to just to use their Email service. > > Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? > >>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>> >>> Never said that either. >> >> But you just said that you never denied it: > > Like hell I ever did. So you do deny it? Then there's no way to know that Google can't read all of your Email data. >>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never said that. >> >>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to >>>>>> them), >>>>> >>>>> Never said that either. >> >> >>>> this must be the method you use to prevent >>>> Google from reading all your Email data. >>> >>> You are wrong, as always. >> >> You are confused. > > Nope, you have never had a fucking clue. > -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-11-03 10:36 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f61ofkFc3n7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #62021 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>> >>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> them), >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>> >>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>> >>>> Never said that either. >>> >>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >> >> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >> >> Can't last. >> >>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >> >> Nope. > So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, Yes. > but not Google doing the encrypting. Another of your lies, it doesn’t. > However Google doing the encryption It doesn’t. > means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >> >> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >> >>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>> >>>> Never said that either. >>> >>> But you just said that you never denied it: >> >> Like hell I ever did. > > So you do deny it? Nope. > Then there's no way to know that Google > can't read all of your Email data. I do in fact know that absolutely. >>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that. >>> >>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> them), >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that either. >>> >>> >>>>> this must be the method you use to prevent >>>>> Google from reading all your Email data. >>>> >>>> You are wrong, as always. >>> >>> You are confused. >> >> Nope, you have never had a fucking clue.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-11-05 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #62025 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message > news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> them), >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>> >>>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>>> >>>>> Never said that either. >>>> >>>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >>> >>> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >>> >>> Can't last. >>> >>>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >>> >>> Nope. > >> So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, > > Yes. > >> but not Google doing the encrypting. > > Another of your lies, it doesn?t. > >> However Google doing the encryption > > It doesn?t. > >> means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. > > Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? > >>>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >>> >>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>> >>>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>>> >>>>> Never said that either. >>>> >>>> But you just said that you never denied it: >>> >>> Like hell I ever did. >> >> So you do deny it? > > Nope. > >> Then there's no way to know that Google >> can't read all of your Email data. > > I do in fact know that absolutely. Because you use end-to-end encryption? -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-11-06 14:16 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f6a2h5F9f63U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #62058 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it >>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> them), >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>> >>>>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >>>> >>>> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >>>> >>>> Can't last. >>>> >>>>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>>>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >>>> >>>> Nope. >> >>> So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, >> >> Yes. >> >>> but not Google doing the encrypting. >> >> Another of your lies, it doesn?t. >> >>> However Google doing the encryption >> >> It doesn?t. >> >>> means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. >> >> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >> >>>>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>>>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >>>> >>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>> >>>>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>> >>>>> But you just said that you never denied it: >>>> >>>> Like hell I ever did. >>> >>> So you do deny it? >> >> Nope. >> >>> Then there's no way to know that Google >>> can't read all of your Email data. >> >> I do in fact know that absolutely. > > Because you use end-to-end encryption? Nope.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-11-06 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <otqkfj$1slv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #62069 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message > news:oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it >>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> them), >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>> >>>>>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >>>>> >>>>> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >>>>> >>>>> Can't last. >>>>> >>>>>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>>>>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >>>>> >>>>> Nope. >>> >>>> So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>>> but not Google doing the encrypting. >>> >>> Another of your lies, it doesn?t. >>> >>>> However Google doing the encryption >>> >>> It doesn?t. >>> >>>> means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. >>> >>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>> >>>>>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>>>>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >>>>> >>>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>>> >>>>>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>> >>>>>> But you just said that you never denied it: >>>>> >>>>> Like hell I ever did. >>>> >>>> So you do deny it? >>> >>> Nope. >>> >>>> Then there's no way to know that Google >>>> can't read all of your Email data. >>> >>> I do in fact know that absolutely. >> >> Because you use end-to-end encryption? > > Nope. Then you don't know it absolutely. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-11-07 11:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f6cbrnFpt86U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #62093 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:otqkfj$1slv$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it >>>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> them), >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>>>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >>>>>> >>>>>> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't last. >>>>>> >>>>>>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>>>>>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. >>>> >>>>> So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, >>>> >>>> Yes. >>>> >>>>> but not Google doing the encrypting. >>>> >>>> Another of your lies, it doesn?t. >>>> >>>>> However Google doing the encryption >>>> >>>> It doesn?t. >>>> >>>>> means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. >>>> >>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>> >>>>>>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>>>>>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>>>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But you just said that you never denied it: >>>>>> >>>>>> Like hell I ever did. >>>>> >>>>> So you do deny it? >>>> >>>> Nope. >>>> >>>>> Then there's no way to know that Google >>>>> can't read all of your Email data. >>>> >>>> I do in fact know that absolutely. >>> >>> Because you use end-to-end encryption? >> >> Nope. > > Then you don't know it absolutely. You are wrong, as always.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-11-07 20:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ott5t9$qk1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #62100 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it >>>>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> them), >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>>>>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can't last. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>>>>>>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. >>>>> >>>>>> So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, >>>>> >>>>> Yes. >>>>> >>>>>> but not Google doing the encrypting. >>>>> >>>>> Another of your lies, it doesn?t. >>>>> >>>>>> However Google doing the encryption >>>>> >>>>> It doesn?t. >>>>> >>>>>> means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. >>>>> >>>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>>> >>>>>>>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>>>>>>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>>>>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But you just said that you never denied it: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like hell I ever did. >>>>>> >>>>>> So you do deny it? >>>>> >>>>> Nope. >>>>> >>>>>> Then there's no way to know that Google >>>>>> can't read all of your Email data. >>>>> >>>>> I do in fact know that absolutely. >>>> >>>> Because you use end-to-end encryption? >>> >>> Nope. >> >> Then you don't know it absolutely. > > You are wrong, as always. OK, if you insist. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-11-08 08:00 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f6el6qFbo53U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #62125 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:ott5t9$qk1$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it >>>>>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> them), >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>>>>>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't last. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>>>>>>>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>> >>>>>>> So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. >>>>>> >>>>>>> but not Google doing the encrypting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another of your lies, it doesn?t. >>>>>> >>>>>>> However Google doing the encryption >>>>>> >>>>>> It doesn?t. >>>>>> >>>>>>> means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>>>>>>>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>>>>>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But you just said that you never denied it: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like hell I ever did. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So you do deny it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Then there's no way to know that Google >>>>>>> can't read all of your Email data. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do in fact know that absolutely. >>>>> >>>>> Because you use end-to-end encryption? >>>> >>>> Nope. >>> >>> Then you don't know it absolutely. >> >> You are wrong, as always. > > OK, if you insist. I do.
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