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Re: gmail now officially stink

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: gmail now officially stink
Date 2017-11-01 12:53 +1100
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"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
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> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts
>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then
>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted
>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the
>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never said that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer,
>>>>
>>>> Never said that.
>>>>
>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to
>>>>> them),
>>>>
>>>> Never said that either.
>>>
>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle
>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either?
>>
>> Never said that either.
>
> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that".

Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once.

Can't last.

> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service
> encrypting the data before it gets to Google.

Nope.

> As I said before though, that's a silly amount
> of work to go to just to use their Email service.

Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ?

>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your
>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption,
>>
>> Never said that either.
>
> But you just said that you never denied it:

Like hell I ever did.

>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never said that.
>
>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to
>>>>> them),
>>>>
>>>> Never said that either.
>
>
>>> this must be the method you use to prevent
>>> Google from reading all your Email data.
>>
>> You are wrong, as always.
>
> You are confused.

Nope, you have never had a fucking clue. 

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