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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: gmail now officially stink |
| Date | 2017-11-07 11:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f6cbrnFpt86U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (24 earlier) <otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org> <f61ofkFc3n7U1@mid.individual.net> <oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org> <f6a2h5F9f63U1@mid.individual.net> <otqkfj$1slv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:otqkfj$1slv$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it >>>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> them), >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>>>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >>>>>> >>>>>> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't last. >>>>>> >>>>>>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>>>>>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. >>>> >>>>> So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, >>>> >>>> Yes. >>>> >>>>> but not Google doing the encrypting. >>>> >>>> Another of your lies, it doesn?t. >>>> >>>>> However Google doing the encryption >>>> >>>> It doesn?t. >>>> >>>>> means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. >>>> >>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>> >>>>>>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>>>>>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>>>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But you just said that you never denied it: >>>>>> >>>>>> Like hell I ever did. >>>>> >>>>> So you do deny it? >>>> >>>> Nope. >>>> >>>>> Then there's no way to know that Google >>>>> can't read all of your Email data. >>>> >>>> I do in fact know that absolutely. >>> >>> Because you use end-to-end encryption? >> >> Nope. > > Then you don't know it absolutely. You are wrong, as always.
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