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Re: gmail now officially stink

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: gmail now officially stink
Date 2017-10-31 09:49 +1100
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"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
news:ot86ue$20a$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts
>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then
>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted
>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the
>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer:
>>>>>
>>>> Never said that.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t.
>>>
>>> If it is encrypted by your computer,
>>
>> Never said that.
>>
>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to
>>> them),
>>
>> Never said that either.
>
> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle
> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either?

Never said that either.

> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your
> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption,

Never said that either.

> this must be the method you use to prevent
> Google from reading all your Email data.

You are wrong, as always.
 

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