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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: gmail now officially stink |
| Date | 2017-11-03 10:36 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f61ofkFc3n7U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (24 earlier) <ot86ue$20a$1@gioia.aioe.org> <f5poj7Fd6s2U1@mid.individual.net> <otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org> <f5snoqF3nsjU1@mid.individual.net> <otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>> >>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> them), >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>> >>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>> >>>> Never said that either. >>> >>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >> >> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >> >> Can't last. >> >>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >> >> Nope. > So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, Yes. > but not Google doing the encrypting. Another of your lies, it doesn’t. > However Google doing the encryption It doesn’t. > means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >> >> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >> >>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>> >>>> Never said that either. >>> >>> But you just said that you never denied it: >> >> Like hell I ever did. > > So you do deny it? Nope. > Then there's no way to know that Google > can't read all of your Email data. I do in fact know that absolutely. >>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that. >>> >>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> them), >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that either. >>> >>> >>>>> this must be the method you use to prevent >>>>> Google from reading all your Email data. >>>> >>>> You are wrong, as always. >>> >>> You are confused. >> >> Nope, you have never had a fucking clue.
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