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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: gmail now officially stink |
| Date | 2017-11-06 14:16 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f6a2h5F9f63U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (24 earlier) <otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org> <f5snoqF3nsjU1@mid.individual.net> <otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org> <f61ofkFc3n7U1@mid.individual.net> <oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:oto02h$gnr$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:otg56m$1tn7$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:otaqao$6kg$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not@telling.you.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>>>>>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's >>>>>>>>>>>>> servers? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, >>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If it is encrypted by your computer, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it >>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> them), >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle >>>>>>> service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>> >>>>> I take it that means "yes, I did not say that". >>>> >>>> Bloody hell, you actually managed to get something right for once. >>>> >>>> Can't last. >>>> >>>>> So it might be a man-in-the-middle service >>>>> encrypting the data before it gets to Google. >>>> >>>> Nope. >> >>> So you've ruled out a man-in-the-middle service, >> >> Yes. >> >>> but not Google doing the encrypting. >> >> Another of your lies, it doesn?t. >> >>> However Google doing the encryption >> >> It doesn?t. >> >>> means you can't know if they look at the unencrypted data first. >> >> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >> >>>>> As I said before though, that's a silly amount >>>>> of work to go to just to use their Email service. >>>> >>>> Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? >>>> >>>>>>> Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your >>>>>>> computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>> >>>>>> Never said that either. >>>>> >>>>> But you just said that you never denied it: >>>> >>>> Like hell I ever did. >>> >>> So you do deny it? >> >> Nope. >> >>> Then there's no way to know that Google >>> can't read all of your Email data. >> >> I do in fact know that absolutely. > > Because you use end-to-end encryption? Nope.
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