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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities

From "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: [Poll] Computing favorities
Date 2015-08-28 05:51 +1000
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<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
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> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 9:39:54 AM UTC-4, jmfbahciv wrote:
>
>> BASIC was used as a first-time-user training tool.  Before that FORTRAN
>> was used to train kiddies on using heardware and thinking about program
>> flow.  When BASIC became available on PDP-10s, it was used as breaking
>> in newbies instead of FORTRAN.  I/O, both disk and TTY, was simpler
>> to teach than FORTRAN.
>
> BASIC was a lot easier to learn than FORTRAN.

> IMHO, using Fortran required a good understanding of algebra.

It doesn't require any more of an understanding of algebra than Basic does.

The IO is different but doesn't require any understanding of algebra.

Operating on text data is harder in Fortran but doesn't require any
understanding of algebra at all to do that.

> Typically, compsci and math folks had that, but other students could be 
> rather weak in it.

> For instance, Fortran required knowing about integer and
> real variables which could be confusing to non-math types.

In practice you can just ignore integer types completely if you want.

> BASIC was more flexible with formulas.

Nope.

> As mentioned, I/O in Fortran required a FORMAT
> statement, which was not required in BASIC.

Yes, but that has nothing to do with algebra.

> Also, BASIC was typically accessed via a Teletype.

Only early on.

> While there were some Fortran Teletype accessed
> systems, in many cases (most?) Fortran was
> accessed via a batch program via punched cards.

Nothing like most with minis.

> That meant students had to learn a k/p machine,

Its actually harder to learn how to use a teletype.

> assemble a deck with JCL,

Students just used canned JCL.

> and wait for results.

That is mangling batch and online systems.

Yes, Basic was much more common with online systems,
particularly with minis as opposed to mainframes, but
much of the Fortran was done on minis just like with Basic.

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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-31 13:42 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 18:53 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-31 19:10 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 20:09 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-31 21:00 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-31 12:15 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-31 20:31 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-31 19:41 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-31 22:04 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-01 18:46 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-09-01 15:38 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-03 00:17 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:10 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:05 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-26 21:21 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-27 05:42 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 08:59 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 10:02 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 16:49 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:15 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-27 15:35 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-24 23:09 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 09:43 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 06:55 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 17:19 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 09:10 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 19:23 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 11:26 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 04:43 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 15:01 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:22 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:39 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:18 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-31 20:38 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:35 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:37 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:27 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:36 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:32 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-24 16:52 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 10:16 -0700
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-26 04:03 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-24 12:22 -0700
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:41 +1000
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 18:47 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 15:16 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:18 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:31 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:55 +0200
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:53 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:18 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 10:28 +0200
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-24 12:40 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 13:18 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 04:34 +1000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-23 22:39 +0100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:16 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-24 10:34 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:58 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-08-24 13:04 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 14:09 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-24 14:52 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 16:41 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-24 19:29 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-24 15:32 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-25 07:16 +0100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 07:29 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 13:20 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 12:10 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:06 +0100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:02 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 23:35 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-23 15:27 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:10 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:28 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:27 -0500
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:48 +1000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-23 21:32 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:57 +1000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:00 +0100
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:18 +0000
  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-23 11:31 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-23 12:08 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-24 08:22 -0700

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