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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities

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Date	2015-08-31 16:20 -0700
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Subject	Re: [Poll] Computing favorities
From	Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net>

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On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 9:50:14 AM UTC-5, Peter Flass wrote:
> jmfbahciv wrote:
> > Peter Flass wrote:
> >> jmfbahciv wrote:
> >>> Osmium wrote:
> >>>> "jmfbahciv" wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Andrew Swallow wrote:
> >>>>>> On 28/08/2015 15:54, hancock4 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 9:32:24 AM UTC-4, jmfbahciv wrote:
> >>>>>>>> You are talking about IBM machines.  I was talking about DEC
> >>>>>>>> machines.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Did DEC support time-shared interactive FORTRAN, accessed via a
> >>>>>>> Teletype?  If so, was it commonly used?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> For DEC users who had a high volume of input, perhaps lab
> >>>>>>> observations, did they still use a Teletype to enter them?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> A Teletype is great for small volumes of data since it is easy to
> >>>>>>> learn and use.  However, for high volumes of data it is quite
> >>>>>>> cumbersome, as it does not have the keying aides that a real keypunch
> >>>>>>> machine has.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> While 1960s BASIC accepted numbers of varying length separated by a
> >>>>>>> comma, I think FORTRAN _of that era_ required fixed length fields, as
> >>>>>>> defined by a FORMAT statement.  That meant a Teletype user had to
> >>>>>>> carefully zero fill all numbers and manually space to the proper
> >>>>>>> column, while a keypunch operator hit skip or the machine did so
> >>>>>>> automatically via drum card.  The keypunch keyboard was faster to
> >>>>>>> type on by an experienced operator than a Teletype keyboard.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> DEC did have a Fortran that ran on the PDP-11 but aligning the fields
> >>>>>> was a chore.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Do you mean the coding fields?  A <TAB> would be used to separate the
> >>>>> first field from the statement field.
> >>>> 
> >>>> This thread seems to be about some Fortran compiler that was much more
> >>>> restrictive than the ones you and I used.   I started with Fortran II and
> > it
> >>>> had some fixed format attributes, but never anything that became a
> >>>> noticeable problem.  I thought it was pretty much standard, McCracken was
> >>>> the text book we used. There must have been a Fortran <no number>, maybe
> >>>> that is the subject here.
> >>> 
> >>> Oh, OK.  I thought most were talking about IBMish FORTRANs which didn't
> >>> do disks.  When they did implement disk storage, the methods were
> >>> still card-based.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Every  IBM FORTRAN I ever used did disks (except maybe 1620 FORTRAN II).
> > 
> > How did the FORTRAN code input a disk file?
> 
> Same way it reads anything READ(unit,format) list, if I recall the syntax
> after 30+ years.  The unit number was assigned to a disk file somehow or
> other, you yourself mention ASSIGN below. IBM did it with JCL: //FT01n005
> DD UNIT=DISK...
> The DDNAME somehow corresponded to the FORTRAN unit number.
> 
> > 
> >>> 
> >>> I never used FORTRAN I but I had understood that it was FORTRAN II
> >>> without the disk.  IOW, the object time system had to be loaded
> >>> before any FORTRAN program in the card hopper.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Once again, when the heck was this? on a 704?
> > 
> > No, 1620.  All output was cards or a message on the system console.
> > Our 1620 did have a disk but it was used to load compilers and
> > assemblers instead of using a card deck.
> 
> Typically student jobs on the 1620 wouldn't use disk.

Not directly, but the Monitor, FORTRAN II compiler, utilities,
and other run-time subroutines (for FORTRAN II) were.  --- Or
rather, could be, if a disk Monitor was being used on that
particular IBM 1620. _____________________ Gerard Schildberger



> > When we got the PDP-10, if we didn't want to read/punch cards, the only
> > way to run the IBM library, was to issue the commands to the 4s72
> > monitor:
> > 
> > ASSIGN DSK 5
> > ASSIGN DSK 6
> > 
> > Instead of cards, the files FOR05.DAT and FOR06.DAT would be used.
> > It took a big mindset change to think of disk files rathern than
> > cards.  I talked with prospective customers who were IBM COBOL
> > programmers.  They had a very difficult problem thinking about
> > compilation turnaround times in seconds rather than days or weeks.
> > Their idea of "real time" was very different from DEC's notion
> > of real time.  Theirs had to do with downstream proccessing and
> > ours had to do with reality.
> > 
> > /BAH
> 
> Any non-overloaded system would be fast.  TSO had subsecond response time
> when I ran something at 3:00 on a Sunday morning.  Most systems I ever
> worked on, IBM and non-IBM, were overloaded.
> 
> -- 
> Pete

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