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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities

From	Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: [Poll] Computing favorities
Date	2015-08-31 20:11 +0000
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On 2015-08-31, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-31, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Circa 1980, there was a number of papers published about 1/4 sec.  (or
>>> less) response improving human productivity. With the introduction of
>>> the channel attached 3274/3278 (controller/terminal), there was
>>> attention about its poor human factors ... which had gone unnoticed by
>>> TSO users (since their system response was typically already at least a
>>> second, and usually much worse).
>> 
>> I remember reading that paper at the time.  The conclusion was that fast
>> response time allowed users to get into a rhythm, while slow responses
>> gave their minds time to wander while they waited for the system.  Once
>> they got a response, they had to get their minds back into the job,
>> inducing still more delays.  But invariably this was seen as less
>> important than saving a few bucks on hardware.
>> 
>> At the time I was using Univac gear which polled strings of terminals
>> once a second, setting a minimum response time well above that 1/4
>> second.  And I overheard some people in the 1100 group talking about
>> stuffing delays into the response if the system was ready too soon,
>> for they felt a consistent response time, however slow, was better
>> than coming back as quickly as possible.
>
> This has been shown to be true.

I suppose it could be - it would give you a predictable amount of time
to spend organizing files, writing memos, reading a book, etc. as a form
of multitasking.  But it still feels like a cop-out.

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  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 06:30 +1000
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            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-27 14:35 +0200
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-27 14:17 +0000
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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-30 14:58 +0000
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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-31 12:09 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 14:48 +0000
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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 18:53 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-31 20:11 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-31 14:22 -0700
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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-31 16:04 -0400
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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-31 13:42 -0500
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