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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

From Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Don't disable recoomends by default
Date 2019-08-06 20:50 +0200
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On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 09:32:11 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 10:50:17PM +0200, Urs Thuermann wrote:
> > Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> writes:
> > 
> > > Quoting Stephan Seitz (2019-07-12 09:30:38)
> 
> [...]
> 
> > I have done this for years now, i.e. I have
> > 
> >     APT::Install-Recommends "false";
> > 
> > in /etc/apt/apt.conf and I haven't had any problems, unexpected
> > behavior or non-functional software packages.
> 
> So have I. Happy camper. Of course, you've got to know what you're
> doing -- at least a little.

That makes three of us. We can handle the fallout (if any). But the
last thing we want is to deprive many users of a smooth experience
of Debian.

> Honestly I find the strong reactions to this ("anti-pattern", etc.)
> downright disturbing. I'm in free software generally, and in Debian
> particularly, because they don't try to impose things on their
> users. There's far too much authoritarian software out there as
> it is.
> 
> Of course, the more you delve under the hood, the more responsibility
> you take for your system, but "do it like this or else" is to me
> the real anti-pattern.

Most users rarely delve under the hood in regards to Recommends:; it
is a non-issue for them. We have the best of both worlds as it stands
at present.

> And now let me get down from my soapbox and hand it over to someone
> else :-)

We'd rather you stayed there to keep us up to the mark. Anyway, we
like the snazzy shirt you are wearing.

-- 
Brian.

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useless languages Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-07-12 13:10 +0200
  Re: useless languages Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 13:10 +0200
    Re: useless languages Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 13:40 +0200
      Re: useless languages Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 14:10 +0200
        Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 14:20 +0200
          Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2019-07-12 14:40 +0200
            Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 17:20 +0200
              Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-07-12 17:30 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 19:00 +0200
              Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Urs Thuermann <urs@isnogud.escape.de> - 2019-08-05 23:10 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-08-05 23:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-08-06 07:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 12:10 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-06 09:40 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 20:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-07 09:20 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 13:20 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 15:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 20:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 21:50 +0200
          Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 14:40 +0200
            Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 17:30 +0200
              Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 19:20 +0200
              Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 19:30 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 20:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-12 23:20 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 23:40 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-13 04:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-13 04:30 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Urs Thuermann <urs@isnogud.escape.de> - 2019-08-05 23:10 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-08-05 23:30 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 23:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-13 06:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-13 10:40 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-13 14:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-08-06 09:40 +0200
  Re: useless languages David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-07-13 04:30 +0200
    Re: useless languages Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-07-13 09:30 +0200
    Re: useless languages Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-07-13 16:30 +0200
  Re: useless localisation files Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-13 06:40 +0200

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