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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Don't disable recoomends by default |
| Date | 2019-07-12 19:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <yj73P-5B3-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <yj2xd-35o-29@gated-at.bofh.it> <yj2GR-38A-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <yj30d-3eY-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <yj5v3-4Ok-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <yj5EJ-4Ru-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 11:23:56 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Stephan Seitz (2019-07-12 09:30:38) > > > On Fr, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > >Wrong. Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", recommends > > > >are for pacakges needed in "all but unusual installations." > > > > > > From my experience this is wrong. > > > > > > With recommends my d10 update would have systemd as init instead of > > > sysvinit. And I would have got (for example) the package debsecan > > > which I don’t need. > > > > > > So it is better to disable recommends and look at the recommended > > > packages. > > > > There is nothing wrong in suppressing specific recommendations where you > > understand the implications. > > > > What is wrong is to suppress all recommendations by default. > > There's nothing wrong with suppressing all recommendations by > default, as long as you're willing to go back in and install > particular packages when you realize you want what they do. I'll go along with Jonas Smedegaard's advice. When a user knows what he is doing, not installing Recommends: is the result of a deliberate and considered decision. If the user makes not having recommended packages the default on his system, I can assure you (having done it) that realisation sometimes comes at a substantial price, especially when more than one package is involved. The average user loses nothing by ignoring suggestions not to install Recommends: across the board. They will be happier with their Debian system - and that is what we all want, eh? -- Brian.
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Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 14:20 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2019-07-12 14:40 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 17:20 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-07-12 17:30 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 19:00 +0200
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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-08-05 23:50 +0200
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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-06 09:40 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 20:50 +0200
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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 13:20 +0200
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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 17:30 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 19:20 +0200
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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 20:00 +0200
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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-13 04:00 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-13 04:30 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Urs Thuermann <urs@isnogud.escape.de> - 2019-08-05 23:10 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-08-05 23:30 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 23:50 +0200
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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-13 14:00 +0200
Re: Don't disable recoomends by default mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-08-06 09:40 +0200
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Re: useless localisation files Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-13 06:40 +0200
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