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Don't disable recoomends by default

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Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33)
> > > Disabling installing Recommends by default also helps a great deal 
> > > with all those dependencies you don't want.
> > 
> > Above may break your system in confusing to debug ways,
> 
> Rly? Recommends are called that for a reason.

Yes, and the reason is well defined: Packages requires in "all but 
unusual installations." - quoted from Debian Policy §7.2.


> If Recommend is actually needed for the correct functioning of the
> package - it's a bug in a package.

Wrong.  If a package is possibly to use for any purpose at all, even if 
exotic and unusual, then it makes sense to recommend instead of depend 
on a package.


> Recommends are useful sometime, and it's a useful default to install 
> them. But it comes with the cost and the cost is a dependency bloat.

Wrong.  Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", recommends 
are for pacakges needed in "all but unusual installations."


 - Jonas

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useless languages Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-07-12 13:10 +0200
  Re: useless languages Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 13:10 +0200
    Re: useless languages Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 13:40 +0200
      Re: useless languages Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 14:10 +0200
        Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 14:20 +0200
          Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2019-07-12 14:40 +0200
            Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 17:20 +0200
              Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-07-12 17:30 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 19:00 +0200
              Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Urs Thuermann <urs@isnogud.escape.de> - 2019-08-05 23:10 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-08-05 23:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-08-06 07:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 12:10 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-06 09:40 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 20:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-07 09:20 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 13:20 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 15:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 20:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-06 21:50 +0200
          Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 14:40 +0200
            Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 17:30 +0200
              Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 19:20 +0200
              Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 19:30 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 20:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-12 23:20 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-12 23:40 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-13 04:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-13 04:30 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Urs Thuermann <urs@isnogud.escape.de> - 2019-08-05 23:10 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-08-05 23:30 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-12 23:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-13 06:50 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-13 10:40 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-13 14:00 +0200
                Re: Don't disable recoomends by default mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-08-06 09:40 +0200
  Re: useless languages David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-07-13 04:30 +0200
    Re: useless languages Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2019-07-13 09:30 +0200
    Re: useless languages Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2019-07-13 16:30 +0200
  Re: useless localisation files Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-13 06:40 +0200

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