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Re: text editors

From rlharris@oplink.net
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: text editors
Date 2019-03-27 17:30 +0100
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On 2019.03.27 09:37, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 09:00:07AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
>> tomás writes:
>> > It /is/ a steep learning curve at the beginning (I can confirm, having
>> > come from vi, then vim -- in which I'm still fluent). But it is worth
>> > every turn in that panoramic route.
<snip>
>> I think that one problem people have with Emacs is that they think 
>> they
>> need to learn all of it before they can use it.
...


As well as being easy to use for general word processing, Emacs excels 
in the work of writing scripts, in which the 
"COMPOSE-A-NEW-MACRO-WHENEVER-YOU-NEED-IT;IT-TAKES-ONLY-A-FEW-SECONDS" 
ability of Emacs is invaluable.  After all, the name Emacs is an acronym 
for "Editing MACroS".

Need to make alterations to dozens of lines?  If you can figure out a 
repetitive sequence of keystrokes to accomplish the change, you can save 
that sequence as a macro.  And those keystrokes can involve searches and 
operations such as "advance one word", "go to string xxYYz", "go to end 
of line", "replace xxx with yyy", and so forth.

Each time you need to do something which is impossible or would take 
forever with a rodent-dependent editor, you need to stop a minute and 
search for the way to do it with Emacs; that is the way you learn Emacs 
-- when you have motivation.

O'Reilly published a marvelous book on Emacs, "Learning GNU Emacs", in 
which author Debra Cameron takes the reader from the state of "complete 
novice" to "power user".

An Emacs guru who has been of great benefit to me is Xah Lee, who has 
written a tutorial:

http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/emacs.html

as well as much material on Emacs; check out his blog:

http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/blog.html

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text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 05:40 +0100
  Re: text editors Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 06:00 +0100
    Re: text editors Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-03-25 06:10 +0100
  Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-25 06:40 +0100
    Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 09:00 +0100
      Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-25 11:20 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 11:40 +0100
  Re: text editors Dan Hitt <dan.hitt@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 07:00 +0100
  Re: text editors john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-03-25 07:40 +0100
  Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-25 12:10 +0100
    Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-25 12:50 +0100
      Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-25 13:10 +0100
      Re: text editors Étienne Mollier <etienne.mollier@mailoo.org> - 2019-03-25 21:20 +0100
        Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 22:10 +0100
  Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-25 13:30 +0100
    Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 08:40 +0100
      Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-26 16:50 +0100
        Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-26 18:00 +0100
          Re: text editors Håkon Alstadheim <hakon@alstadheim.priv.no> - 2019-03-26 21:20 +0100
          Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-27 03:30 +0100
            Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-27 13:10 +0100
              Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-27 14:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-27 15:10 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-27 15:40 +0100
                Re: text editors rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-27 17:30 +0100
                Re: text editors rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-28 18:40 +0100
                keyboard macros (was: Re: text editors) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-28 19:00 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 19:30 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:00 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-28 19:50 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 20:10 +0100
                xfce launchers rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-04-03 18:40 +0200
                Re: xfce launchers Mike Kupfer <mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu> - 2019-04-04 07:20 +0200
                Re: xfce launchers rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-04-04 07:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 06:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 03:40 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 03:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 08:00 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 09:20 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 10:40 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:10 +0100
                Emacs without knowing any Lisp (was: text editors) Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-03-29 02:50 +0100
                Re: Emacs without knowing any Lisp (was: text editors) Bill Wood <william.wood3@comcast.net> - 2019-03-29 06:50 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 14:10 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 14:50 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-28 14:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 15:20 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 15:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 00:40 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 06:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-29 09:00 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 10:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 12:40 +0100
                Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-29 18:00 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 19:50 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-29 20:10 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 00:10 +0100
                Re: text editors Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-30 00:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-30 01:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 01:40 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 04:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 09:30 +0100
                What does all this mean? was Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 17:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-30 05:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2019-03-30 02:20 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-30 02:30 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 01:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: text editors Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-01 12:50 +0200
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-01 16:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:00 +0200
                Re: text editors "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-04-01 16:30 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:50 +0200
                Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-01 17:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 18:20 +0200
                Re: text editors "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-04-01 19:50 +0200
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-04-01 18:40 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:50 +0200
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-01 17:10 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 11:00 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-29 13:00 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:50 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 11:50 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-28 17:20 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 17:50 +0100
                Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-03-28 18:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Dekks Herton <dekkzz78@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:40 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-29 20:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-03-30 03:20 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-01 18:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Dekks Herton <dekkzz78@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:40 +0100
              Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-27 20:40 +0100
              Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100
          Re: text editors Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-03-27 12:10 +0100
            Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-28 07:30 +0100
              Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 11:40 +0100
                Re: text editors "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 12:30 +0100
                Re: text editors "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 13:00 +0100
                Re: text editors Pierre Fourès <pierre.foures@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 17:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:40 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 10:00 +0100
          Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-03-27 11:20 +0100
          Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-27 16:50 +0100
    Understanding (some) Lisp (was: Re: text editors) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-28 17:10 +0100
      Re: Understanding (some) Lisp Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-28 17:20 +0100
  Re: text editors Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-03-26 03:30 +0100
    Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-26 06:30 +0100
  Re: text editors Tony Rowe <ay986@chebucto.ns.ca> - 2019-03-26 23:40 +0100
    Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100
      Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 03:00 +0100
      Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 09:20 +0100
  Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 12:10 +0100
    Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 07:30 +0100
      Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 09:30 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 12:20 +0100

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