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Re: text editors

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: text editors
Date 2019-03-30 01:50 +0100
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On Fri 29 Mar 2019 at 19:22:47 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 29 March 2019 19:08:20 deloptes wrote:
> > John Hasler wrote:
> > > deloptes writes:
> > >> I've been listening at this BS at the university as well. Until now
> > >> I have not seen any practical or pragmatic use of this.
> > >
> > > The results of ignoring it are evident all over the Web.
> >
> > this is true, unfortunately. It was 2009 when I finally gave up. If
> > found out that in every single are of science there is the mainstream
> > and the good stream, but the mainstream supressing the good stream ...
> > I was dreaming of applications programmed in PL, but found out that it
> > is not desired, so it is laughable how today everybody is talking of
> > AI. WTF! It's screwed at the base and unless things change there,
> > nothing will change else where.
> > This is crap and this whole discussion around emacs and lisp is
> > laughable as well - overblown text editor for what ... to write text
> > files?! Give me a break, pls!
> 
> +10 deloptes

I'm glad you understood it. Perhaps you could gloss it for me in a
private email.

> The editor is a personal choice. What I care about is what comes out of 
> it.

Of course you do. So do I. With a few exceptions, most of the work
I have done on computers has been the production of text files
(about which deloptes appears to be dismissive).

As a consequence, the text editor is one of the most important tools,
and what workperson doesn't care about their tools, seeking to improve
them, and to improve their ability to use them. I've already learnt
a couple of new things about emacs and, in another forum, I recently
learnt a few things about vi and its server (or daemon) mode.

But we all have to make choices about what we can spend time on.
Unfortunately, at the moment, any lisp dialect is well down the
list. Even if I had the time, my focus would be on the dialect
scheme and, in particular, guile. How much help that would be for
my use of emacs, I don't know.

Cheers,
David.

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text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 05:40 +0100
  Re: text editors Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 06:00 +0100
    Re: text editors Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-03-25 06:10 +0100
  Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-25 06:40 +0100
    Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 09:00 +0100
      Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-25 11:20 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 11:40 +0100
  Re: text editors Dan Hitt <dan.hitt@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 07:00 +0100
  Re: text editors john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-03-25 07:40 +0100
  Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-25 12:10 +0100
    Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-25 12:50 +0100
      Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-25 13:10 +0100
      Re: text editors Étienne Mollier <etienne.mollier@mailoo.org> - 2019-03-25 21:20 +0100
        Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 22:10 +0100
  Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-25 13:30 +0100
    Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 08:40 +0100
      Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-26 16:50 +0100
        Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-26 18:00 +0100
          Re: text editors Håkon Alstadheim <hakon@alstadheim.priv.no> - 2019-03-26 21:20 +0100
          Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-27 03:30 +0100
            Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-27 13:10 +0100
              Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-27 14:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-27 15:10 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-27 15:40 +0100
                Re: text editors rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-27 17:30 +0100
                Re: text editors rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-28 18:40 +0100
                keyboard macros (was: Re: text editors) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-28 19:00 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 19:30 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:00 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-28 19:50 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 20:10 +0100
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                Re: xfce launchers Mike Kupfer <mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu> - 2019-04-04 07:20 +0200
                Re: xfce launchers rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-04-04 07:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 06:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 03:40 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 03:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 08:00 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 09:20 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 10:40 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:10 +0100
                Emacs without knowing any Lisp (was: text editors) Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-03-29 02:50 +0100
                Re: Emacs without knowing any Lisp (was: text editors) Bill Wood <william.wood3@comcast.net> - 2019-03-29 06:50 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 14:10 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 14:50 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-28 14:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 15:20 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 15:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 00:40 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 06:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-29 09:00 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 10:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 12:40 +0100
                Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-29 18:00 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 19:50 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-29 20:10 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 00:10 +0100
                Re: text editors Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-30 00:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-30 01:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 01:40 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 04:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 09:30 +0100
                What does all this mean? was Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 17:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-30 05:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2019-03-30 02:20 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-30 02:30 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 01:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: text editors Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-01 12:50 +0200
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-01 16:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:00 +0200
                Re: text editors "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-04-01 16:30 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:50 +0200
                Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-01 17:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 18:20 +0200
                Re: text editors "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-04-01 19:50 +0200
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-04-01 18:40 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:50 +0200
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-01 17:10 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 11:00 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-29 13:00 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:50 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 11:50 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-28 17:20 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 17:50 +0100
                Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-03-28 18:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Dekks Herton <dekkzz78@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:40 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-29 20:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-03-30 03:20 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-01 18:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Dekks Herton <dekkzz78@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:40 +0100
              Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-27 20:40 +0100
              Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100
          Re: text editors Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-03-27 12:10 +0100
            Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-28 07:30 +0100
              Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 11:40 +0100
                Re: text editors "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 12:30 +0100
                Re: text editors "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 13:00 +0100
                Re: text editors Pierre Fourès <pierre.foures@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 17:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:40 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 10:00 +0100
          Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-03-27 11:20 +0100
          Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-27 16:50 +0100
    Understanding (some) Lisp (was: Re: text editors) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-28 17:10 +0100
      Re: Understanding (some) Lisp Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-28 17:20 +0100
  Re: text editors Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-03-26 03:30 +0100
    Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-26 06:30 +0100
  Re: text editors Tony Rowe <ay986@chebucto.ns.ca> - 2019-03-26 23:40 +0100
    Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100
      Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 03:00 +0100
      Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 09:20 +0100
  Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 12:10 +0100
    Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 07:30 +0100
      Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 09:30 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 12:20 +0100

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