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Re: text editors

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: text editors
Date	2019-03-28 14:30 +0100
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On Thu 28 Mar 2019 at 07:51:53 (+0100), deloptes wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
> 
> > Not true.

[… in response to "exactly - learning emacs means learning lisp - what
for? I switched years ago to ne."]

> really, I did not know that you could be me and you knew my experience.
> Anyway emacs is not bad for those who know it, but it is impractical because
> you have mostly vim installed, so learning vim is a must indeed.
> 
> If you use debian I recommend learning ne - a great editor unfortunately not
> installed by default.

Please, if you're going to criticise someone's comment, include their
comment in your quoting.

If you think that it requires being you or knowing your experience to
judge the statement "learning emacs means learning lisp", then it's
likely that you don't understand what the word "means" means when used
like that.

So we're left wondering why you've stated that learning emacs
necessarily involves learning lisp, either beforehand or at the
same time. I've been using, and learning, emacs for over two
decades and I have no knowledge of lisp other than
. it's used to implement emacs,
. there are lots of dialects,
. it uses lots and lots of parentheses.

Cheers,
David.

Thread

text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 05:40 +0100
  Re: text editors Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 06:00 +0100
    Re: text editors Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-03-25 06:10 +0100
  Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-25 06:40 +0100
    Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 09:00 +0100
      Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-25 11:20 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 11:40 +0100
  Re: text editors Dan Hitt <dan.hitt@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 07:00 +0100
  Re: text editors john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-03-25 07:40 +0100
  Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-25 12:10 +0100
    Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-25 12:50 +0100
      Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-25 13:10 +0100
      Re: text editors Étienne Mollier <etienne.mollier@mailoo.org> - 2019-03-25 21:20 +0100
        Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-25 22:10 +0100
  Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-25 13:30 +0100
    Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-26 08:40 +0100
      Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-26 16:50 +0100
        Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-26 18:00 +0100
          Re: text editors Håkon Alstadheim <hakon@alstadheim.priv.no> - 2019-03-26 21:20 +0100
          Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-27 03:30 +0100
            Re: text editors rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-27 13:10 +0100
              Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-27 14:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-27 15:10 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-27 15:40 +0100
                Re: text editors rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-27 17:30 +0100
                Re: text editors rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-28 18:40 +0100
                keyboard macros (was: Re: text editors) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-28 19:00 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 19:30 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 20:00 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-03-28 19:50 +0100
                Re: keyboard macros John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 20:10 +0100
                xfce launchers rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-04-03 18:40 +0200
                Re: xfce launchers Mike Kupfer <mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu> - 2019-04-04 07:20 +0200
                Re: xfce launchers rlharris@oplink.net - 2019-04-04 07:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 06:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 03:40 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 03:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 08:00 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 09:20 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 10:40 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:10 +0100
                Emacs without knowing any Lisp (was: text editors) Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-03-29 02:50 +0100
                Re: Emacs without knowing any Lisp (was: text editors) Bill Wood <william.wood3@comcast.net> - 2019-03-29 06:50 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 14:10 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 14:50 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-28 14:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 15:20 +0100
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 15:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 00:40 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 06:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-29 09:00 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 10:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 12:40 +0100
                Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-29 18:00 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 19:50 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-29 20:10 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 00:10 +0100
                Re: text editors Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-30 00:30 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-30 01:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 01:40 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 04:30 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 09:30 +0100
                What does all this mean? was Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 17:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-30 05:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2019-03-30 02:20 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-30 02:30 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-30 01:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-01 12:10 +0200
                Re: text editors Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-01 12:50 +0200
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-01 16:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:00 +0200
                Re: text editors "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-04-01 16:30 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:50 +0200
                Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-01 17:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 18:20 +0200
                Re: text editors "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-04-01 19:50 +0200
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-04-01 18:40 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 16:50 +0200
                Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-04-01 17:10 +0200
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 11:00 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-29 13:00 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:20 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:50 +0100
                Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 11:50 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-28 17:20 +0100
                Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 17:50 +0100
                Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-03-28 18:20 +0100
                Re: text editors Dekks Herton <dekkzz78@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:40 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-03-29 20:30 +0100
                Re: text editors Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2019-03-30 03:20 +0100
                Re: text editors David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-04-01 18:40 +0200
                Re: text editors Dekks Herton <dekkzz78@gmail.com> - 2019-03-29 10:40 +0100
              Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-27 20:40 +0100
              Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100
          Re: text editors Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-03-27 12:10 +0100
            Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-28 07:30 +0100
              Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 11:40 +0100
                Re: text editors "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 12:30 +0100
                Re: text editors "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 13:00 +0100
                Re: text editors Pierre Fourès <pierre.foures@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 17:50 +0100
                Re: text editors deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-28 21:40 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 10:00 +0100
          Re: text editors Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-03-27 11:20 +0100
          Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-27 16:50 +0100
    Understanding (some) Lisp (was: Re: text editors) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-03-28 17:10 +0100
      Re: Understanding (some) Lisp Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-28 17:20 +0100
  Re: text editors Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-03-26 03:30 +0100
    Re: text editors Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2019-03-26 06:30 +0100
  Re: text editors Tony Rowe <ay986@chebucto.ns.ca> - 2019-03-26 23:40 +0100
    Re: text editors Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-03-28 01:30 +0100
      Re: text editors John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-03-28 03:00 +0100
      Re: text editors <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-03-28 09:20 +0100
  Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-27 12:10 +0100
    Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 07:30 +0100
      Re: text editors Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-03-29 09:30 +0100
        Re: text editors mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-03-30 12:20 +0100

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