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Re: Scary AI

From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.philosophy
Subject Re: Scary AI
Date 2025-04-17 20:22 -0400
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On 4/17/2025 6:40 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Newyana2:
> 
>> If you believe in scientific materialism then you might
>> believe that consciousness is an emergent quality, arising
>> from chemical reactions in the brain.
> 
> Is this compatible with us perceiving our own consciousness
> and being able to discuss it, which means it is casually
> active?
> 
> Do you mean strong (aka miraculous) emergence, or weak
> emergence? IMHO, the weak variety is out of the question:
> chemmical, electrical, and other material processes can
> produce only other material processes, but not feelings,
> emotions, qualia...
> 

  I don't support either premise. Do we perceive
consciousness? That seems questionable. "I think,
therefore I am" is a desperate grasping at ground,
not an observation.

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      Re: Scary AI Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-08 14:45 -0400
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