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Re: Scary AI

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On 4/8/2025 2:07 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:

> How does the program do that?
> I used to earn my daily bread programming commercial mainframes. But 
> this AI "in the style of" beats me. I've done Walt Whitman, Louis 
> Carroll, William Wordsworth and others; and all win my praise.
> And that's only one facet of the AI phenomenon.
> 
> I'd have needed a vast database of examples set up just for Shakespeare 
> alone.
> 
> I'll not rest until I grab the working essentials of how this thing 
> works; call it a program, call it an algorithm, call it what the hell 
> you want, but I want to know how it produces its stuff.
> The sort of things I've read so far are; "It has all the Internet at its 
> call, and summons up vast resources". But that gives nothing away. If 
> you've ever had to write a computer program, you'll know that is true.
> 
> So, how does it do its stuff?
> 

   As a programmer you know that it's all math. It's all
calculations on an abacus. It just gets increasingly complex.
The marketers say they've lost track of how it's working
and that must be intelligence and blah, blah, blah. But it's
still all just binary data and math calculations.

   So how do they make these things up? They copy billions
of lines of data and look for patterns. Notice that your poem
includes lots of cliches strung together. They mostly don't
make a lot of sense. But they come close and we read
into it.

   So how COULD they do it? There's only one way: To gather
data and compare it in various ways, then synthesize new
combinations. That's math, just like any other computer
operation. You might download porn of a naked woman with
an amazing ass and go into a long fantasy about having a
relationship with her. Would it matter whether that woman
exists or whether it's an AI production? What you're enjoying
is a bitmap recording of RGB pixel values, projected on a
screen. There's neither a real woman nor an AI picture there.
There's a data stream of numeric values interpreted as
RGB pixel colors. The rest is in your mind.

   I think that's the interesting thing about people who talk
about tests for consciousness. We'll know a computer is
conscious if it can make a human think it's conscious. But
that assumes the human is conscious. What is conscious?
If I always stop at Dunkin Donuts for a chocolate donut
when I pass by, is that conscious? If I give my life savings
to a woman who says she loves me, is that conscious? How
about if I decide an AI is conscious and empathetic because
it seems to like me?

   So, no, AI is not conscious. The more intriguing question
for me is whether it's possible for humans to be conscious. :)

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Scary AI Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-08 16:26 +0100
  Re: Scary AI "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-08 11:45 -0400
  Re: Scary AI Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-08 12:39 -0400
    Re: Scary AI Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-08 19:07 +0100
      Re: Scary AI Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-08 14:45 -0400
        Re: Scary AI Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-08 20:35 +0100
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