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Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025

From "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025
Date 2025-01-14 17:54 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Carlos,

>> Besides, a troll normaly ends with (good-humoured or not) telling/showing
>> his opponent(s) how they fell for their goading.  Instead arlen here just
>> "fades away".
>
> We would have to discuss types of trolls :-)
> I'm not an expert on that.

Luckily(!), neither am I. :-)

> He claims that he can be found by inspecting his headers and that I'm
> stupid for not finding him fast. Is that true, is there a header that
> gives him away, or at least rise the suspicions?

Not that  I know of.   Although in this case his (chosen by himself)
"@facts.com" email addy does give a bit of a hint.

Furthermore "marion"s first post(!) containing "they're a moron" was enough
to raise my suspicion, and the complaining about "I figured you out" will
most likely have been a lighthouse signal to the one who made that remark.

Quite a while ago I asked the same to someone here who said he had
experience/knowledge with email and newsgroup headers, and even he said he
could effectivily only make guesses.

Also, being able to just extract the users identity from the newspost
headers would no go well with most of people - including arlen here - and
the newsgroup provider enabeling such a thing would be hemmoraging users
when that would come out in the open.

So no, there isn't anything in there from which you can extract a posters
identity.

However, there is a (likely) possibility that one of those headers contains
a random(sh?) number which, if you have access to the newsgroup-servers
look-up table you could find the number and next to it the identification
the person used to sign up with.

Than again, IIRC until last year I used an newgroup host which didn't ask
for a signup, so the trace would end there.

And do realize that arlen is one of the knights-of-claim-a-lot, meaning that
he seldom, if ever, supports his claims with verifyable data.

There are a few possibilities for his claim :

1) He actually is able to do what he says.  Though he's way to eager to show
off what all he can do, so I think we can forget about that.

2) He thinks he noticed a constant or a pattern in those newsgroup-message
headers contents, and concluded that that identifies him - blightely
ignoring that even if we would know where that that constant would be
located in the headers, we would not be able to ascertain who that that
constant  belongs to.

3) He's goading you/us with some "I know something you don't so I'm more
important than you!".   Which he definitily is the person for.

Last but not least, I've not heard of anyone being able to do what arlen
there has been claiming for years now.

To recuperate :

> is there a header that gives him away, or at least rise the suspicions?

Not to my knowledge.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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              Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-27 10:31 -0800
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                Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-28 12:38 +0100
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