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| From | olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.theory, sci.logic |
| Subject | The error of the halting problem |
| Date | 2024-06-03 15:53 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <v3lafd$1uml$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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For any program H that might determine whether programs halt, a "pathological" program D, called with some input, can pass its own source and its input to H and then specifically do the opposite of what H predicts D will do. No H can exist that handles this case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem The way that the halting problem is conventionally understood is that H must correctly answer yes or no to an input that contradicts both answers, thus H is being asked a question isomorphic to the Liar Paradox: Is this sentence true or false: "This sentence is not true." ? *Two PhD computer science professors agree with this assessment* E C R Hehner. Problems with the Halting Problem, COMPUTING2011 Symposium on 75 years of Turing Machine and Lambda-Calculus, Karlsruhe Germany, invited, 2011 October 20-21; Advances in Computer Science and Engineering v.10 n.1 p.31-60, 2013 https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hehner/PHP.pdf Bill Stoddart. The Halting Paradox 20 December 2017 https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.05340 arXiv:1906.05340 [cs.LO] E C R Hehner. Objective and Subjective Specifications WST Workshop on Termination, Oxford. 2018 July 18. See https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hehner/OSS.pdf -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
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The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 15:53 -0500
Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 20:55 -0400
Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 19:59 -0500
Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 21:44 -0400
Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 20:51 -0500
Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 21:58 -0400
Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:14 -0500
Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 22:26 -0400
Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:32 -0500
Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 22:47 -0400
Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:58 -0500
Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 23:11 -0400
Re: The error of the halting problem joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-04 08:29 +0000
Re: The error of the halting problem --- G is untrue in PA olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:45 -0500
Re: The error of the halting problem --- G is untrue in PA Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 21:48 -0400
Re: The error of the halting problem Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-04 12:24 +0300
Re: The error of the halting problem joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-04 08:27 +0000
Re: The error of the halting problem Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-04 11:09 +0300
Re: The error of the halting problem Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-04 11:00 +0300
Re: The error of the halting problem olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:28 -0500
Re: The error of the halting problem Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 21:48 -0400
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