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| From | Newyana2 <mayayana@invalid.nospam> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage |
| Subject | Re: App |
| Date | 2024-04-30 09:28 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <v0qrpf$2fu9k$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 4/30/2024 3:32 AM, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote:
>
>> That's what Windows is supposed to do, dating back to Win9x.
>> It's been broken with every rendition. Yet the settings are still
>> there -- thousands of keys in the Registry meant to spec the size
>> and orientation of each individual window. It's like building a
>> skyscraper and neglecting to put stairs... for 30 years... How do
>> they do that? Maybe it's an interesting story.
>
> Thanks. That explains what I wondered about for a long time. Up till XP
> the windows had individual settings. Suddenly with version 7 that was
> gone.
>
XP had them, but they often didn't take. If you look at
HKCU\SOFTWARE\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\
Windows\Shell\Bags
in Win10 you'll see that the settings are still there. But still,
Windows seems to be not saving them properly and thus forgets
them. On Win7 I found that I could fix it by properly configuring
Bags\AllFolders\Shell and deleting the rest of the Bags subkeys.
I'm still not sure whether that works on Win10. It seems that a
sample Shell key once again lacks the necessary settings.
It's complicated because this is all undocumented and MS
switch it up frivolously with every release. But there is a system.
Explorer is supposed to record the specs when a window closes.
If you look in those keys you may see values with names drawn
from Shell API parameters for displaying windows. WFlags specs
min/max/normal size. FFlags, ShowCmd, Vid (which specs display
options, not as 1-5 but as GUIDs!), etc.
Windows size and position are specced like so:
"WinPos" is followed by screen dimensions and API-style specs.
For example, I have WinPos1920x1080x96(1).top, with corresponding
bottom, left and right. All of these have to be redone if screen
resolution is changed. But Win10 Explorer is not propagating those
specs to Bags keys, so it doesn't know how a window should appear.
And of course, Win10 adds a few new values, willy nilly, which may
or may not actually be relevant... And a new wrinkle has been added
since Win7: The broken folder settings are now saved to a further
subkey -- Bags\[number]\Shell\{5C4F28B5-F869-4E84-8E60-F11DB97C5CC7}
That GUID signifies a generic folder type. Ther Softies just
can't seem to resist throwing in GUIDs to make things look
more official. Now there are folder types. 20-30 of them. (Generic,
communications, library....)
Sometimes I think half the time of MS developers must be spent
in the lunch room, competing to have the best secret decode ring
from some video game box.
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