Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

From	Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: NTP.conf pool vs server
Date	2017-06-07 16:40 +0200
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On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote:

> I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry
> for stretch.
>
> All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file
> as: server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org
> server 1.XX.pool.ntp.org
>
> An example source from 2017 is https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime
>
> When I open /etc/ntp.conf on my new stretch installation, I find this
> format: pool 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
> pool 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
>
> The latest Debian doc says to start the line with 'server'.
> The latest Debian implementation starts the line with 'pool'.
>
> Are these interchangeable?
>
> Additionally, there is a parameter 'iburst' which I did not find in
> the Debian docs but found at http://doc.ntp.org/4.1.1/confopt.htm
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ray

Begin rant:

From someone who is currently battling a fresh jessie install that didn't 
even come with ntpdate installed, and which using the above format 
in /etc/ntp.conf is still about 12 hours off on an rpi-3.

Installing ntpdate and attempting to start it gets me a no servers found 
message, yet they are defined as discussed above, and the network is 
fully accessible to all other forms of communication.  

That doc on www.ntp.org is nice, but worthless to someone who just wants 
it to work. I have quite a zoo of machines here, and I see little 
advantage to each one banging on a network server, when it needs an 
update.  But does it give even a hint of how to make this machine, or 
heaven forbid, my router, which keeps time via ntp, and which I believe 
has the time broadcast enabled, (its dd-wrt in a buffalo box) into a 
server that the rest of my machines can listen to to get the correct 
time. If I could achieve that, it would reduce the loading on the time 
servers at debian or pool.ntp.org by a factor of 5 or 6 just from my 
home network.

But a manpage that actually tells us how to do that must be sick bird, 
because its not been written yet.  Man page writers please get real, and 
tell us how to do something like getting our home networks all 
synchronized to our routers which can then broadcast it to the rest of 
our network.

Such a scheme can easily keep us on time with any errors within a few 
milliseconds, more than adequate enough for the girls I go with. While 
reducing the load on the servers by at least 80%.

So how about a manpage that tells us how to do that?  If its not illegal 
according to some rfc that is.

Rant off.

Thanks for reading.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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NTP.conf   pool vs server ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2017-06-07 15:20 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 15:30 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-07 16:50 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-07 16:40 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:10 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf pool vs server Joshua Schaeffer <jschaeffer0922@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 17:30 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:50 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-06-07 18:10 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-07 17:20 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 01:10 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 14:30 +0200
          Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 14:50 +0200
            Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 15:30 +0200
              Re: https_port Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-06-08 17:00 +0200
                Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 17:20 +0200
                Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 17:30 +0200
                Re: https_port Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-08 17:40 +0200
                Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 17:50 +0200
                Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 18:00 +0200
                Re: https_port Jim Ohlstein <jim@mailman-hosting.com> - 2017-06-08 19:10 +0200
                Re: https_port Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2017-06-09 16:40 +0200
                Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-09 16:50 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-09 17:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-09 17:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-09 18:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-09 21:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 04:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-10 16:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 16:30 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-10 18:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-09 17:30 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 16:10 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-06-07 18:10 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-07 18:30 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-11 18:00 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-11 19:30 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2017-06-08 08:40 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-06-08 09:20 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 15:40 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Jim Ohlstein <jim@mailman-hosting.com> - 2017-06-07 18:40 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200

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