Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

From	Jim Ohlstein <jim@mailman-hosting.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: NTP.conf pool vs server
Date	2017-06-07 18:40 +0200
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Hello,

On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 10:35 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote:
> 
> > I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry
> > for stretch.
> >
> > All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the
> file
> > as: server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org
> > server 1.XX.pool.ntp.org
> >
> > An example source from 2017 is https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime
> >
> > When I open /etc/ntp.conf on my new stretch installation, I find
> this
> > format: pool 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
> > pool 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
> >
> > The latest Debian doc says to start the line with 'server'.
> > The latest Debian implementation starts the line with 'pool'.
> >
> > Are these interchangeable?
> >
> > Additionally, there is a parameter 'iburst' which I did not find in
> > the Debian docs but found at http://doc.ntp.org/4.1.1/confopt.htm
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ray
> 
> Begin rant:
> 
> From someone who is currently battling a fresh jessie install that
> didn't 
> even come with ntpdate installed, and which using the above format 
> in /etc/ntp.conf is still about 12 hours off on an rpi-3.
> 
> Installing ntpdate and attempting to start it gets me a no servers
> found 
> message, yet they are defined as discussed above, and the network is 
> fully accessible to all other forms of communication. 

$ sudo ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org
>  
> 
> That doc on www.ntp.org is nice, but worthless to someone who just
> wants 
> it to work. I have quite a zoo of machines here, and I see little 
> advantage to each one banging on a network server, when it needs an 
> update.  But does it give even a hint of how to make this machine,
> or 
> heaven forbid, my router, which keeps time via ntp, and which I
> believe 
> has the time broadcast enabled, (its dd-wrt in a buffalo box) into a 
> server that the rest of my machines can listen to to get the correct 
> time. If I could achieve that, it would reduce the loading on the
> time 
> servers at debian or pool.ntp.org by a factor of 5 or 6 just from my 
> home network.
> 
> But a manpage that actually tells us how to do that must be sick
> bird, 
> because its not been written yet.  Man page writers please get real,
> and 
> tell us how to do something like getting our home networks all 
> synchronized to our routers which can then broadcast it to the rest
> of 
> our network.
> 
> Such a scheme can easily keep us on time with any errors within a
> few 
> milliseconds, more than adequate enough for the girls I go with.
> While 
> reducing the load on the servers by at least 80%.
> 
> So how about a manpage that tells us how to do that?  If its not
> illegal 
> according to some rfc that is.
> 
> Rant off.
> 
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
> 
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NTP.conf   pool vs server ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2017-06-07 15:20 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 15:30 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-07 16:50 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-07 16:40 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:10 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf pool vs server Joshua Schaeffer <jschaeffer0922@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 17:30 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:50 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-06-07 18:10 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-07 17:20 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 01:10 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 14:30 +0200
          Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 14:50 +0200
            Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 15:30 +0200
              Re: https_port Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-06-08 17:00 +0200
                Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 17:20 +0200
                Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 17:30 +0200
                Re: https_port Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-08 17:40 +0200
                Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 17:50 +0200
                Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 18:00 +0200
                Re: https_port Jim Ohlstein <jim@mailman-hosting.com> - 2017-06-08 19:10 +0200
                Re: https_port Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2017-06-09 16:40 +0200
                Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-09 16:50 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-09 17:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-09 17:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-09 18:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-09 21:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 04:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-10 16:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 16:30 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-10 18:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-09 17:30 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 16:10 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-06-07 18:10 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-07 18:30 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-11 18:00 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-11 19:30 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2017-06-08 08:40 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-06-08 09:20 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 15:40 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Jim Ohlstein <jim@mailman-hosting.com> - 2017-06-07 18:40 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200

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