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Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

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On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote:

> I largely agree with Gene.  The man pages are incredibly silly.  They
> don't tell you how to do the Most Basic Common Thing.  Instead they
> talk about "type s and r addresses" and "a preemptable association
> is mobilized" and "mobilizes a persistent  symmetric-active  mode
> association" and "type b and m addresses" and other such gibberish.
>

That is one of the ideas behind the info pages. Man pages have always been
technically oriented and are generally very focused. They don't really
offer context. Now, I'm not saying that info pages accomplish this (some
do, some don't), but that was one of the original ideas behind info pages,
is to be more real world and comprehensive. There are trade offs to both
approaches.

You typically get a dichotomy of groups about man pages and documentation
in general. Some people prefer the more technical nature of the man pages,
while others find it frustrating. Can be further exacerbated by the fact
that people tell other people to RTFM, but even reading a man page top to
bottom doesn't help when it actually comes to setting up a piece of
software (as you probably experienced yourself).

In general man pages are more helpful when you already understand the
software in question and are looking for specific information.

Thanks,
Joshua Schaeffer

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NTP.conf   pool vs server ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2017-06-07 15:20 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 15:30 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-07 16:50 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-07 16:40 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:10 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf pool vs server Joshua Schaeffer <jschaeffer0922@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 17:30 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf pool vs server Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-07 17:50 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-06-07 18:10 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-07 17:20 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 01:10 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 14:30 +0200
          Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 14:50 +0200
            Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 15:30 +0200
              Re: https_port Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-06-08 17:00 +0200
                Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 17:20 +0200
                Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 17:30 +0200
                Re: https_port Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-08 17:40 +0200
                Re: https_port Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-08 17:50 +0200
                Re: https_port "Adiel Plasencia Herrera" <adielp@estereocentro.icrt.cu> - 2017-06-08 18:00 +0200
                Re: https_port Jim Ohlstein <jim@mailman-hosting.com> - 2017-06-08 19:10 +0200
                Re: https_port Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2017-06-09 16:40 +0200
                Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-09 16:50 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-09 17:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-09 17:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-09 18:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-09 21:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 04:20 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-10 16:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 16:30 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-10 18:00 +0200
                Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again (was: https_port) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-09 17:30 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 16:10 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-06-07 18:10 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-07 18:30 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-11 18:00 +0200
          Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-11 19:30 +0200
      Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2017-06-08 08:40 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-06-08 09:20 +0200
        Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-06-08 15:40 +0200
    Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Jim Ohlstein <jim@mailman-hosting.com> - 2017-06-07 18:40 +0200
  Re: NTP.conf   pool vs server Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2017-06-07 17:00 +0200

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