Re: Any Unicode Experts?

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Any Unicode Experts?
Date	2021-08-07 09:36 +0100
Organization	A little, after lunch
Message-ID	<selgna$b2l$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References	<sejhjm022lo@news2.newsguy.com> <eli$2108061626@qaz.wtf>

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On 06/08/2021 21:27, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> (Follow-up to comp.os.linux.advocacy ignored.)
> 
> In comp.os.linux.misc, FR  <fr@random.info> wrote:
>> ASCII is dead as it should be.  It goes back to the telegraph era
>> (i.e. Morse code).  The first 32 bytes (except EOL, LF, and CR)
>> of ASCII are transmission control codes that are no longer relevant.
> ...
>> As far as I know, the first 32 bytes (except CR and LF) are
>> just dead space.  Is this correct?
> 
> No, absolutely not.
> 
> Null and horizontal tab get a lot of use still. Vertical tab and
> form feed get a little. Arguably escape and backspace get used (eg
> terminal control sequences). Whatever the status of the rest vis-a-vis
> newly composed documents, their meanings remain unchanged for historical
> documents.
> 
Ctrl-Z and Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V have a lot of use too

> Unicode, covering Linear A (U+10600 to U+1077F, in use from 1800 to 1450
> BC) to Signwriting (U+1D800 to U+1DAAF, a generalized notation for
> writing down sign languages) aims to include modern and historical
> content. Just because you should not expect to generate new content
> with start of heading (SOH) or end transmission block (ETB), doesn't
> mean those characters are dead space.
> 
Indeed not. They are handy as with all 'out of band' text characters as 
control characters on communications streams that could conceivably be 
useful again sometime in the future

> Elijah
> ------
> has a soft spot for ␗ U+0017
> 


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Any Unicode Experts? FR <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-06 14:39 +0000
  Re: Any Unicode Experts? FR <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-06 15:01 +0000
    Re: Any Unicode Experts? Snit Michael Glasser <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-06 08:10 -0700
  US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-08-06 08:15 -0700
    Re: US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-08-06 17:36 +0200
      Re: US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. FR <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-06 15:49 +0000
        Re: US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-08-06 18:48 +0200
        Re: US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. FR <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-06 17:57 +0000
  Re: Any Unicode Experts? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-08-06 20:27 +0000
    Re: Any Unicode Experts? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-07 09:36 +0100
      Re: Any Unicode Experts? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-08-08 04:32 +0000
        Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-07 22:50 -0600
          Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-08 20:32 +0200
            Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-08 18:00 -0600
              "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-08-08 18:11 -0700
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-08 22:19 -0600
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. Ann Glaser <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-09 14:57 -0700
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2021-08-16 16:06 +0200
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. HHI <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-17 11:42 -0700
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. STALKING_TARGET_27 <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-19 16:20 -0700
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-10 18:02 +0200
                while(malloc(666)); Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-08-10 09:28 -0700
                Re: while(malloc(666)); jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-10 18:39 +0200
              Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-09 07:28 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-09 07:56 -0600
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-10 10:33 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-10 12:49 +0100
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-10 15:26 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2021-08-10 13:43 +0000
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-10 21:12 -0600
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-11 12:25 +0100
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-12 09:54 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-14 10:58 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-08-11 16:52 +0000
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-11 20:19 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-08-12 16:37 +0000
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-12 20:32 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-12 20:40 -0600
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Steven Petruzzellis - fretwizen <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-14 11:14 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-15 05:19 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? STALKING_TARGET_79 <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-13 15:09 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-08-10 16:11 -0400
      Re: Any Unicode Experts? STALKING_TARGET_53 <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-08 14:40 -0700

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