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Re: Any Unicode Experts?

From Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Any Unicode Experts?
Date 2021-08-06 20:27 +0000
Organization Some absurd concept
Message-ID <eli$2108061626@qaz.wtf> (permalink)
References <sejhjm022lo@news2.newsguy.com>

Cross-posted to 3 groups.

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(Follow-up to comp.os.linux.advocacy ignored.)

In comp.os.linux.misc, FR  <fr@random.info> wrote:
> ASCII is dead as it should be.  It goes back to the telegraph era
> (i.e. Morse code).  The first 32 bytes (except EOL, LF, and CR)
> of ASCII are transmission control codes that are no longer relevant.
...
> As far as I know, the first 32 bytes (except CR and LF) are
> just dead space.  Is this correct?

No, absolutely not.

Null and horizontal tab get a lot of use still. Vertical tab and
form feed get a little. Arguably escape and backspace get used (eg
terminal control sequences). Whatever the status of the rest vis-a-vis
newly composed documents, their meanings remain unchanged for historical
documents.

Unicode, covering Linear A (U+10600 to U+1077F, in use from 1800 to 1450
BC) to Signwriting (U+1D800 to U+1DAAF, a generalized notation for
writing down sign languages) aims to include modern and historical
content. Just because you should not expect to generate new content
with start of heading (SOH) or end transmission block (ETB), doesn't
mean those characters are dead space.

Elijah
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has a soft spot for ␗ U+0017

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Any Unicode Experts? FR <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-06 14:39 +0000
  Re: Any Unicode Experts? FR <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-06 15:01 +0000
    Re: Any Unicode Experts? Snit Michael Glasser <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-06 08:10 -0700
  US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-08-06 08:15 -0700
    Re: US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-08-06 17:36 +0200
      Re: US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. FR <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-06 15:49 +0000
        Re: US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-08-06 18:48 +0200
        Re: US-ASCII is a subset of the set of Unicode code points. FR <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-06 17:57 +0000
  Re: Any Unicode Experts? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-08-06 20:27 +0000
    Re: Any Unicode Experts? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-07 09:36 +0100
      Re: Any Unicode Experts? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-08-08 04:32 +0000
        Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-07 22:50 -0600
          Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-08 20:32 +0200
            Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-08 18:00 -0600
              "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-08-08 18:11 -0700
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                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. Ann Glaser <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-09 14:57 -0700
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2021-08-16 16:06 +0200
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. HHI <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-17 11:42 -0700
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. STALKING_TARGET_27 <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-19 16:20 -0700
                Re: "while(1);" borks Visual Studio. jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-10 18:02 +0200
                while(malloc(666)); Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-08-10 09:28 -0700
                Re: while(malloc(666)); jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-10 18:39 +0200
              Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-09 07:28 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-09 07:56 -0600
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-10 10:33 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-10 12:49 +0100
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-10 15:26 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2021-08-10 13:43 +0000
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-10 21:12 -0600
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-11 12:25 +0100
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-12 09:54 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-14 10:58 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-08-11 16:52 +0000
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-11 20:19 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-08-12 16:37 +0000
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2021-08-12 20:32 +0200
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-08-12 20:40 -0600
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Steven Petruzzellis - fretwizen <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-14 11:14 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-15 05:19 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? STALKING_TARGET_79 <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-13 15:09 -0700
                Re: Any Unicode Experts? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-08-10 16:11 -0400
      Re: Any Unicode Experts? STALKING_TARGET_53 <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-08 14:40 -0700

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