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Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.astro, rec.arts.sf.science
Subject Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin
Date 2016-04-14 22:35 +0000
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In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.space.policy Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're reasonable if they work.  SpaceX is trying to avoid adding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other engines to the Falcon 9 first stage.  The stage could hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and land, for example, if it added Super Draco engines to the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage.  But, they require different fuel and oxidizer than the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage carries.  This would mean adding completely different tanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plumbing, and etc.  for those engines.  Also, if Super Dracos were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used, it would be advantageous to deplete the kerosene and then vent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any remaining LOX in the tanks before landing.  So, any "leftover"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuel and oxidizer would be "wasted".  In my book, this would not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a good trade to make.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If one wanted to give the Falcon 9 first stage the ability to hover,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wouldn't the most straightforward way to do that be create a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deeply-throttled Merlin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straightforward, perhaps, but it's a very big design change so you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start with having to requalify as if it's a whole new engine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yet you were just saying in another thread space stuff doesn't have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bureaucrat bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cite?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sure, it was by someone called Fred J. McCall talking about nuclear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reactors on Mars being cheap for lack of bureaucrat bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY don't comprehend English, do you?  Either that or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're just so intellectually dishonest everything sounds different to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.  Note that even if you interpret that one instance the way you do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which is twisted) it doesn't say what you claim I've said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop making up lies, Chimp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stop taking mind altering drugs, space cadet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop begging to suck my dick, Chimp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sounds like someone would really like being in an all male isolated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, but it doesn't matter how much you beg.  You're not my type.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer them female, smart, cute, and human.  You miss on all four.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yet you seem to know nothing about them such as they have been putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>diapers on their babies since antiquity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called 'cloth', not 'diapers', you stupid twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cloth is raw stock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diapers, shirts, pants, sheets, etc. are finished goods, you stupid twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And BOTH cloth and finished goods were IMPORTED to the Colonies, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb cunt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So what, space cadet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So your claims in this regard, like so many of your claims, are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chimpshit, chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both cloth and finished goods are imported to the US from Sri Lanka.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, they are, so we still don't qualify as a successful colony by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your definitions because we can't cloth ourselves without imports.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does that mean you can not survive in the US without imports from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sri Lanka, space cadet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's more of that chimpshit wriggling between "survive" and "live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a rich suburb"...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nope, I've never deviated from the facts that it is trivial to survive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on the Earth just about anywhere and impossible to survive on Mars without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>21st century technology, and a lot of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you've never explained all those failed colonies and dead people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sure I have but they have nothing to do with surviving on Mars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> But they do have everything to do with your proclaimed ease of
>>>>>>>>>>> survival in the Americas naked and unafraid, you intellectually
>>>>>>>>>>> dishonest twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>As the Americas had somewhere between 50 million and 100 million, and
>>>>>>>>>>growing, people before the Europeans arrived, ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And then it didn't.  Apparently survival isn't as easy as you claim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is if you don't have invaders killing off roughly 80% of the population
>>>>>>>>with imported diseases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Diseases are a part of that 'nature' thing.  Apparently you only count
>>>>>>> it when it HELPS survival.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No life and no disease on Mars, so what happened the the American
>>>>>>indiginous population is irrelevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unknown, even if you assume we don't bring something with us.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Odds are there are no diseases on Mars and it is trivial to prevent
>>>>carrying any to Mars.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> So you go from an absolute statement to "odds are".  What are the
>>> odds, then, Jim?
>>
>>I's say somewhere around .9 with a shitload of 9s after it to 1.
>>
> 
> And just what do you base that on, other than an almost total lack of
> information?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_habitability
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Mars

 
>>>>>>>>None of which is relevant to Mars as there is zero life on Mars, which
>>>>>>>>includes diseases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unproven.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The people that go to Mars better hope there are no diseases on Mars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>... and you can not live
>>>>>>>>>>longer than about 5 seconds on Mars without 21st century technology, ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So you keep claiming.  It's everyone else that's nuts and not you,
>>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So you are saying it doesn't take 21st century technology to be able
>>>>>>>>to live and work in what is for all practical purposes a vacuum?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the difference in ease of survival should be obvious to everyone other
>>>>>>>>>>than starry eyed space cadets who read too many comic books.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Oh, so now it's EASE of survival.  You do keep moving the goalposts,
>>>>>>>>> don't you, chimp?  See Biosphere.  Right down the road from here.  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Ease as in the amount of required support equipment and the complexity
>>>>>>>>of the support equipment, space cadet. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For colonies to survive they historically needed 'leading edge'
>>>>>>> technology in support.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope, just about everything needed in the New World was centuries old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>About the only thing that was 'leading edge' was firearms, which they
>>>>>>wouldn't NEED if they didn't piss of the natives.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't be silly.  Why wouldn't they import the latest available rather
>>>>> than breaking tools out of museums, as you seem to think they did?
>>>> 
>>>>Don't be silly. The latest available, except for firearms, was the same
>>>>as it had been for a thousand years or so.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Don't be silly.  It was your American indigenes that were static, not
>>> Europe.
>> 
>>Don't be an ignorant fool.
>>
> 
> Don't be stupid chimp droppings.
 
Don't be a bile spewing, school yard bully.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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  Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2015-12-05 08:41 -0500
    Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2015-12-05 10:14 -0500
    Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-05 21:49 -0400
      Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-06 21:30 +0000
        Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:07 -0400
          Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 12:45 -0700
            Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-04-08 16:41 +0100
            Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-08 18:27 -0400
          Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-04-07 17:43 +0000
            Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 12:56 -0700
              Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-08 18:26 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-10 08:40 -0400
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                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-04-11 06:37 -0400
              Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 22:01 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:27 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 08:08 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 19:03 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:20 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 21:17 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 20:22 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:11 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:43 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 17:09 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 17:39 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 19:13 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:59 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 06:10 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:12 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 18:25 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:36 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 23:19 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 22:23 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 18:18 +0000
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                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 20:44 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:24 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 04:29 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-14 01:06 -0600
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:22 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 00:56 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:28 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 14:42 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 22:35 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 17:22 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 00:47 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 19:30 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 21:45 +0000
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                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 00:02 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 02:59 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 17:03 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:28 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 19:17 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 12:52 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 20:50 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 19:40 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-17 05:24 +0000
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 23:59 -0700
          Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:29 -0700
            Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-09 16:31 -0400
              Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 18:33 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-10 11:22 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:16 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-12 21:47 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 19:18 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-13 06:27 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 18:35 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin nj_kruse@me.com (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2016-04-13 09:48 +0200
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-13 06:28 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 18:36 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-14 22:50 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 22:09 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 21:39 -0700

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