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Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.astro, rec.arts.sf.science
Subject Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin
Date 2016-04-15 21:45 +0000
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In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.space.policy Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're reasonable if they work.  SpaceX is trying to avoid adding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other engines to the Falcon 9 first stage.  The stage could hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and land, for example, if it added Super Draco engines to the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage.  But, they require different fuel and oxidizer than the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage carries.  This would mean adding completely different tanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plumbing, and etc.  for those engines.  Also, if Super Dracos were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used, it would be advantageous to deplete the kerosene and then vent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any remaining LOX in the tanks before landing.  So, any "leftover"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuel and oxidizer would be "wasted".  In my book, this would not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a good trade to make.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If one wanted to give the Falcon 9 first stage the ability to hover,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wouldn't the most straightforward way to do that be create a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deeply-throttled Merlin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straightforward, perhaps, but it's a very big design change so you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start with having to requalify as if it's a whole new engine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yet you were just saying in another thread space stuff doesn't have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bureaucrat bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cite?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sure, it was by someone called Fred J. McCall talking about nuclear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reactors on Mars being cheap for lack of bureaucrat bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY don't comprehend English, do you?  Either that or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're just so intellectually dishonest everything sounds different to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.  Note that even if you interpret that one instance the way you do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which is twisted) it doesn't say what you claim I've said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop making up lies, Chimp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stop taking mind altering drugs, space cadet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop begging to suck my dick, Chimp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sounds like someone would really like being in an all male isolated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, but it doesn't matter how much you beg.  You're not my type.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer them female, smart, cute, and human.  You miss on all four.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yet you seem to know nothing about them such as they have been putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>diapers on their babies since antiquity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called 'cloth', not 'diapers', you stupid twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cloth is raw stock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diapers, shirts, pants, sheets, etc. are finished goods, you stupid twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And BOTH cloth and finished goods were IMPORTED to the Colonies, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb cunt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So what, space cadet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So your claims in this regard, like so many of your claims, are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chimpshit, chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both cloth and finished goods are imported to the US from Sri Lanka.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, they are, so we still don't qualify as a successful colony by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your definitions because we can't cloth ourselves without imports.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does that mean you can not survive in the US without imports from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sri Lanka, space cadet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's more of that chimpshit wriggling between "survive" and "live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a rich suburb"...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nope, I've never deviated from the facts that it is trivial to survive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on the Earth just about anywhere and impossible to survive on Mars without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>21st century technology, and a lot of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you've never explained all those failed colonies and dead people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sure I have but they have nothing to do with surviving on Mars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But they do have everything to do with your proclaimed ease of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> survival in the Americas naked and unafraid, you intellectually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dishonest twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>As the Americas had somewhere between 50 million and 100 million, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>growing, people before the Europeans arrived, ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then it didn't.  Apparently survival isn't as easy as you claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It is if you don't have invaders killing off roughly 80% of the population
>>>>>>>>>>>>with imported diseases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Diseases are a part of that 'nature' thing.  Apparently you only count
>>>>>>>>>>> it when it HELPS survival.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>No life and no disease on Mars, so what happened the the American
>>>>>>>>>>indiginous population is irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Unknown, even if you assume we don't bring something with us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Odds are there are no diseases on Mars and it is trivial to prevent
>>>>>>>>carrying any to Mars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So you go from an absolute statement to "odds are".  What are the
>>>>>>> odds, then, Jim?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I's say somewhere around .9 with a shitload of 9s after it to 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> And just what do you base that on, other than an almost total lack of
>>>>> information?
>>>>
>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars
>>> 
>>> "There are ongoing investigations assessing the past habitability
>>> potential of Mars, as well as the possibility of extant life."
>>> 
>>> Sounds like they think the odds are much higher than you do.
>>
>>Sounds like ass covering to me so no matter the outcome they can't
>>be called wrong.
>>
> 
> Of course it does, because, as you've made obvious, reality never
> intrudes into a Chimp Position.

Of course ignoring the fact that none of your links contain the probability
number YOU demanded from me.


>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_habitability
>>> 
>>> Nothing really germane to the discussion except that Mars seems to
>>> fall within the 'habitable band' where there could be life.
>>> 
>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars
>>> 
>>> Lots of speculation about life (particularly microbial life) on Mars
>>> and no reason to put the odds of no life where you do.
>>> 
>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars
>>> 
>>> Read the section titled "Possible biosignatures".  Sounds like the
>>> odds are a lot higher than your opinion.
>>> 
>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Mars
>>> 
>>> And yet another cite that doesn't support Jimp the Chimp's conclusion.
>>> I think we've discovered the problem...
>>>
>>
>>Yes we have, you are a know-it-all, blow hard, bile spewing, bully.
>>
> 
> How does your cites not supporting your position that you claim is
> based on them make me any of those things, much less all of them?

How do any of my cites NOT support the position that life on Mars
is highly unlikely, space cadet?

> Blot before you short out your keyboard, Chimp.

Wipe the spittle and drool from you chin, space cadet.

> 
>>
>>Notice that nowhere did anyone give any numeric odds of life on Mars
>>as you demanded of me, space cadet.
>>
> 
> "Demanded"?  I just asked.  You spit out a number.  I asked what it
> was based on.  You cited a bunch of stuff that doesn't support your
> number.  You would have embarrassed yourself less if you'd simply said
> "I pulled it out of my ass", since that's what you did.

The number was my estimate, as requested by you, based on the available
evidence.

That the available evidence makes the likelyhood of life on Mars very
small is not my problem, space cadet.

>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>None of which is relevant to Mars as there is zero life on Mars, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>includes diseases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Unproven.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The people that go to Mars better hope there are no diseases on Mars.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... and you can not live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>longer than about 5 seconds on Mars without 21st century technology, ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you keep claiming.  It's everyone else that's nuts and not you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>So you are saying it doesn't take 21st century technology to be able
>>>>>>>>>>>>to live and work in what is for all practical purposes a vacuum?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the difference in ease of survival should be obvious to everyone other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than starry eyed space cadets who read too many comic books.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, so now it's EASE of survival.  You do keep moving the goalposts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you, chimp?  See Biosphere.  Right down the road from here.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ease as in the amount of required support equipment and the complexity
>>>>>>>>>>>>of the support equipment, space cadet. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For colonies to survive they historically needed 'leading edge'
>>>>>>>>>>> technology in support.  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Nope, just about everything needed in the New World was centuries old.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>About the only thing that was 'leading edge' was firearms, which they
>>>>>>>>>>wouldn't NEED if they didn't piss of the natives.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Don't be silly.  Why wouldn't they import the latest available rather
>>>>>>>>> than breaking tools out of museums, as you seem to think they did?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Don't be silly. The latest available, except for firearms, was the same
>>>>>>>>as it had been for a thousand years or so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Don't be silly.  It was your American indigenes that were static, not
>>>>>>> Europe.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Don't be an ignorant fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't be stupid chimp droppings.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>Don't be a bile spewing, school yard bully.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Don't be a bile spewing, school yard bully lying hypocrite.
>> 
>>Talking to yourself?
>> 
> 
> Sometimes it feels that way, what with me being the only intellect
> involved.
 
Yep, you are the only one in the parade that is in step.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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            Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-09 16:31 -0400
              Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 18:33 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-10 11:22 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:16 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-12 21:47 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 19:18 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-13 06:27 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 18:35 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin nj_kruse@me.com (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2016-04-13 09:48 +0200
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-13 06:28 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 18:36 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-14 22:50 -0400
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 22:09 -0700
                Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 21:39 -0700

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