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Re: How does gravity slow time?

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: How does gravity slow time?
Date 2018-12-17 17:47 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 5:25:54 PM UTC-5, JanPB wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 3:22:27 PM UTC-8, kenseto wrote:
>>> The above question was asked in Quora an my answer is as follows:
>>> 
>>> Before I answer this question I will give a brief definition of time:
>>> The only time exists is Absolute Time.
>> 
>> You can say anything you want but you need to back it up. Current theories happen
>> not to rely on absolute time. This may change in the future, of course, but for now
>> no such viable theory exists.
> 
> The LT agrees with what I said. A clock second on a moving clock is
> corresponded to gamma seconds on the observer’s clock. 

That is not at all what the LT says. I’m not surprised you would make this
mistake because you don’t understand what mathematical equations say. 

> This  means that a clock second of absolute time on a movie clock
> contains gamma seconds of absolute time on the observer’s clock. IOW, a
> clock second contains a different amount of absolute time in different frames. 
> 
>>> 
>>> Now to answer your question: How does gravity slow (clock) time.
>>> 
>>> Near a massive body the medium that carries the energy to complete a
>>> transition by the Cesium atom is curved.
>> 
>> That's cute and everything but it's just random talk. The answer to the question
>> "how does gravity slow clock time" is: "We don't know. We only have models which
>> model and quantify the process."
>> 
>> --
>> Jan
> 



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How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-15 15:22 -0800
  Re: How does gravity slow time? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-16 00:30 +0100
    Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-16 06:04 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-16 15:28 +0100
  Re: How does gravity slow time? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-12-15 15:44 -0800
    Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-15 16:17 -0800
  Re: How does gravity slow time? Scott Richman <sunn@idhnonow.iv> - 2018-12-16 01:02 +0000
    Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-16 20:14 -0800
  Re: How does gravity slow time? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 20:54 -0800
  Re: How does gravity slow time? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-12-16 00:05 -0600
    Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-16 06:16 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-16 14:22 +0000
    Re: How does gravity slow time? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-12-16 13:08 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-16 13:56 -0800
        Re: How does gravity slow time? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-12-16 14:29 -0800
          Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-16 14:32 -0800
    Re: How does gravity slow time? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 19:36 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-12-16 23:57 -0600
        Re: How does gravity slow time? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-16 22:08 -0800
        Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-17 05:58 -0800
        Re: How does gravity slow time? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 10:29 -0800
          Re: How does gravity slow time? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-12-20 20:42 -0600
            Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-21 06:30 -0800
  Re: How does gravity slow time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-16 06:15 +0000
    Re: How does gravity slow time? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-12-16 06:14 -0800
    Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-16 06:17 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-16 14:26 +0000
        Re: How does gravity slow time? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 14:30 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-12-16 06:27 -0800
  How does gravity slow time? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-16 09:22 -0800
    Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-16 11:58 -0800
  Re: How does gravity slow time? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 14:25 -0800
    Re: How does gravity slow time? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-12-16 14:44 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-16 15:21 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 15:24 -0800
        Re: How does gravity slow time? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-12-16 16:05 -0800
          Re: How does gravity slow time? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 01:14 -0800
            Re: How does gravity slow time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-12-17 06:43 -0800
            Re: How does gravity slow time? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-12-17 09:52 -0800
              Re: How does gravity slow time? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 11:53 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-12-17 14:55 -0600
                Re: How does gravity slow time? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 15:41 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-12-17 23:32 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-17 17:21 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-12-18 08:47 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 14:04 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-19 14:13 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-12-20 13:36 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-20 14:43 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? Scott Richman <sunn@idhnonow.iv> - 2018-12-20 23:46 +0000
                Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-20 16:31 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? Scott Richman <sunn@idhnonow.iv> - 2018-12-21 13:56 +0000
    Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-17 06:58 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 17:47 +0000
        Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-17 14:41 -0800
          Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 02:23 +0000
            Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-18 06:13 -0800
              Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 14:17 +0000
                Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-19 07:06 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-19 15:18 +0000
                Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 19:00 +0000
                Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-19 13:16 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 02:35 +0000
                Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-20 07:24 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 15:48 +0000
                Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-20 13:26 -0800
                Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 22:53 +0000
                Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 19:00 +0000
          Re: How does gravity slow time? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 14:17 +0000
            Re: How does gravity slow time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-12-19 06:21 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-17 19:01 +0000
        Re: How does gravity slow time? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-17 11:40 -0800
        Re: How does gravity slow time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-12-17 11:44 -0800
        Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-17 15:17 -0800
          Re: How does gravity slow time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-18 04:50 +0000
            Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-18 07:27 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 11:55 -0800
  Re: How does gravity slow time? Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2018-12-17 08:21 +0100
    Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-17 06:15 -0800
      Re: How does gravity slow time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-17 18:49 +0000
        Re: How does gravity slow time? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 12:18 -0800
        Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-17 15:00 -0800
          Re: How does gravity slow time? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-18 04:24 +0000
            Re: How does gravity slow time? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-12-17 23:35 -0800
            Re: How does gravity slow time? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-12-18 06:57 -0800

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