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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: How does gravity slow time? |
| Date | 2018-12-17 18:49 +0000 |
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes: >On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 2:21:50 AM UTC-5, Helmut Wabnig wrote: >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 15:22:24 -0800 (PST), kenseto <setoken@att.net> >> wrote: >> > The above question was asked in Quora an my answer is as follows: >> > >> >Before I answer this question I will give a brief definition of time: >> >The only time exists is Absolute Time. The passage of Absolute Time is insensitive to gravity or motion. >> >.......... >> HOW DO YOU KNOW? >Proper time is absolute time: No, Stupid Ken. Quit making up your own definitions. Proper time is the time on a clock co-moving with the observer. It is not Absolute Time because there is no such thing, despite your unsupported assertions. > the LT says that a clock second of proper time on a moving clock is >worth gamma seconds of proper time on the observer's clock. No, Stupid Ken. There can only be one proper time here, and it is that of the observer's clock (by definition). The LT says the observer will see the moving clock as running slow by a factor of gamma. It also says that an observer moving with the moving clock will see the first clock as running slow, by a factor of gamma. > This means >that a clock second does not contain the same >amount of proper time (absolute time) No, Ken. As long as you keep making the same stupid mistakes over and over, you'll continue to be wrong, again and again. > in different frames.
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