Re: Counting lines of a file

From	David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Counting lines of a file
Date	2018-10-04 15:12 +0200
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On 03/10/18 17:53, Bart wrote:
> On 03/10/2018 15:05, David Brown wrote:
>> On 03/10/18 15:25, Bart wrote:
> 
>>> I mean, I'd quite like to embedded a movie clip in my filename [which
> 
>> Don't you think that is a /little/ extreme?
> 
> /I/ would. But I've learnt that many do like to push things to the
> limits, given the capability.

Show me someone who things embedding a movie clip in a filename is a
good idea, or agree that you are being absurd - which does /not/ help
your argument in any way.

> 
>>> We are talking about names, and names can reasonably be expected to have
>>> some restrictions.
>>
>> Why?  They should have as few restrictions as practically possible.  It
>> is precisely the lack of restrictions that meant pretty much everything
>> on *nix systems worked fine with UTF-8 even though the code was written
>> long before UTF-8 was invented.
> 
> Newlines in names require a newline. For most people, that means
> pressing the Enter key.
> 
> But they will already be familiar with the kind of entry box that allows
> just the one line of text, and the kind that allows multiple lines.
> 
> With the former, used for things like URLs, searches, filenames (on
> Windows at least), usernames, passwords etc etc, they will also know
> that pressing Enter means end-of-data, or Go.
> 
> Filename data intuitively belongs in the one-line box category.
> 

As I said, putting newlines in filenames is likely to be inconvenient.
But it is not up to the OS to decide that something is inconvenient, and
therefore should not be allowed.

This is the kind of mistake Windows makes.  MS has made arbitrary
decisions about what is and is not allowed in different circumstances,
with the result that it can have trouble with interactions with other
systems.  Their answer was then to allow more some things in some
circumstances, and not in others, leading to a general inconsistency.
Some examples include:

1. Windows makes no distinction between the cases for filenames - so you
can't have "hello.txt" and "Hello.txt" as different files.  Except that
you /can/ do so if you use the POSIX apis, leaving you with files that
you can create but can't access normally.  And because it allows UTF
filenames, and capitalisation is a complicated problem in UTF, you get
inconsistent and incorrect results.  (For example, in Turkish "i" and
"I" are completely different letters.  The capital of "i" is "İ", and
the small version of "I" is "ı".  In Norwegian, AA is sometimes the same
letter as Å, sometimes a different one.  You can't make a clear and
rigid set of rules for this kind of thing - by trying to do so, Windows
guarantees it will be wrong.)

2. You can create filenames and nested paths that are too long for
standard windows command line or explorer to handle, making them nearly
impossible to fix or delete.  (I have done this, by mistake.  The way to
solve the problem was to share the parent folder, access it from a Linux
system, and delete it from there.)

3. With a little effort, you can create filenames in Windows with
invalid characters.  A filename such as "*.*" is a joy to work with.

> 
> (I've now looked again at the remarks about this program not allowing
> newlines in filenames, and it is no more than a quibble.
> 
> Filenames can be entered one by one on the command line (where newlines
> /can/ be entered, on Linux, using your method), or one by one with each
> name on its own line, from stdin.
> 
> For all I know, there may be a way of passing through a newline char
> from stdin, on Linux.
> 
> What would be the solution to that anyway; how would /you/ handle it?

I wouldn't put newlines in the filename in the first place.  But I
wouldn't put arbitrary restrictions on these things - if someone wants
to make filenames with awkward characters, that is /their/ problem, not
mine.

> 
> Personally I'm with the OP; I don't care. This is a convenience utility
> with some limitations. I was even able to run it myself, and on Windows,
> whereas I would never have figured out the right incantations to do it
> with Linux commands.)
> 
> 
>>>
>>> Just having spaces is a big enough problem. But at least a space just
>>> about counts as printable character.
>>
>> So do line breaks.
> 
> Space in ASCII is code 32. Usually 32 onwards are printable (up to 126
> anyway), with space considered to have a blank glyph.
> 
> 0 to 31 are control codes. Newlines usually involve codes 13 and 10.
> 
> 
>>> How long can a filename be? Could it conceivably exceed available RAM?
>>> If so, do you need to write a program so that it can deal with that
>>> possibility?
>>
>> I have regularly had the "joys" of dealing with Windows programs that
>> put artificial limits on the size of filenames or paths.  It is /so/
>> much fun when a program creates folders so deeply nested or with such
>> long names that Windows explorer can't handle them, because the program
>> is written by the good folks that brought us "640 KB should be enough
>> for anyone".
> 
> I think the limit on a file-spec was 260 characters. Which I actually
> found very convenient; I'd allocate 300 for some margin, and be sure I
> had enough for any possible file-name.
> 
> Otherwise, the alternative could get rather complicated, in C, before
> you've even got around to doing anything with the file!
> 

C is a poor language for dealing with strings of any sort.  But we know
that - it is the language you use to write the run-time support for
languages that are good with strings.  No one sane would write a PC
line-count utility in C except if they want to show how to handle file
reading in C - it's a single line in Python.

> (I just don't use deeply nested directories; normally just one level,
> sometimes two. I find deeper nesting highly unfriendly. And I especially
> hate those with artificial levels that use "../../../".)
> 
>> Sure, such filenames are inconvenient - and they are rarely a good idea.
>>   But if I gave you a file called "skål" you would also have a lot of
>> trouble trying to type the name from the command line.
> 
> That one I was able to copy&paste (unsurprisingly, I didn't have any
> such file).
> 
> But Unicode is a different subject, and support for it needs to go
> deeper than just a mere application.
> 
> And Unicode text can still be typed into a one-line entry box.
> 

It is just another example of how some things are inconvenient in some
circumstances.

If you were using Python, writing the filename "skål" would be very
inconvenient for you without a Norwegian keyboard layout (and no
"compose" key on your Windows keyboard - *nix users can use compose-a-a
or compose-o-a).  On the other hand, an embedded newline is easy - just
use a file name like "split\nline".

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  Re: Counting lines of a file Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2018-10-02 16:45 -0400
    Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-03 09:51 +1300
      Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 22:55 +0200
        Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 14:31 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:39 +0200
            Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 16:39 -0700
              Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 08:49 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 11:46 -0700
      Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-02 21:04 +0000
        Re: Counting lines of a file dave_thompson_2@comcast.net - 2018-12-14 17:52 -0500
          Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-12-15 08:14 +0000
      Re: Counting lines of a file Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-10-02 21:24 +0000
        Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:32 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2018-10-03 10:44 +0000
            Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 13:17 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-03 14:35 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 14:25 -0700
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 22:54 +0200
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:43 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Andreas Perstinger <andipersti@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:35 +0000
  Re: Counting lines of a file Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-10-02 20:56 +0000
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:00 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-10-02 21:13 +0000
        Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:28 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2018-10-03 10:48 +0000
            Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 12:07 +0100
              Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-03 14:49 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 14:25 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-03 16:05 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-03 14:17 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 16:53 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-03 16:07 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 15:12 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 11:23 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 20:42 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 12:03 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 21:45 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:52 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 13:26 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 15:37 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 15:06 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 21:48 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 15:28 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-10-04 14:16 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-04 11:09 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 22:00 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 21:18 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 20:28 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 21:59 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 21:10 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-04 15:53 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-05 00:09 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-05 02:06 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-04 22:40 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 21:13 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 23:09 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-05 07:47 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-05 09:44 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-05 12:41 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-05 16:01 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-10-22 13:58 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-22 16:44 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file jadill33@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 09:10 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-05 13:17 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2018-10-03 11:34 -0700
            Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 13:14 +0200
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 00:59 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-04 08:57 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 20:05 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 10:58 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 04:06 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 15:35 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 11:48 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 15:30 +0100
              Re: Counting lines of a file queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2018-10-04 21:35 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-05 07:35 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file Ike Naar <ike@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2018-10-06 23:56 +0000
            Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-07 09:13 +0200
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-10-11 22:14 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ralf Damaschke <rwspam@gmx.de> - 2018-10-11 23:14 +0000
              Re: Counting lines of a file antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2018-12-17 20:17 +0000
  Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 13:59 -0700
    Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-02 23:07 +0100
      Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 00:08 +0100
      Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 16:51 -0700
  Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:47 -0400
    Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-10-03 11:57 +0300
      Re: Counting lines of a file James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-10-03 06:30 -0400
        Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:37 +0300
      Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:20 -0700
        Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:33 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:55 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 22:33 +0100
            Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 17:43 -0400
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 02:49 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 22:06 -0400
                Re: Counting lines of a file gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-10-04 05:20 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2018-10-04 02:45 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 14:42 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 11:27 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2018-10-04 03:40 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 15:17 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 18:13 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 17:47 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 20:49 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2018-10-05 16:52 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-05 01:49 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-05 12:08 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 03:24 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 03:47 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 14:41 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 15:05 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 20:08 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-06 13:02 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 15:51 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-06 17:15 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-06 13:22 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-06 22:27 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-07 11:55 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-07 00:02 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-07 12:10 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-07 01:33 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 01:33 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-08 12:20 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 21:51 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2018-10-06 12:52 -0700
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                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 22:01 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-06 13:17 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2018-12-17 20:50 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 23:09 +0300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 04:02 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 00:29 +0300
              Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 13:22 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:00 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 15:30 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:34 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 09:27 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:04 -0700
            Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 22:50 +0100
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:30 +1300
              Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 15:41 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 00:46 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 13:01 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 01:22 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 13:39 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 18:23 -0700
        Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 13:33 +0100
          Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:40 +0300
          Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:57 -0700
            Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 22:19 +0100
  Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-03 11:25 +1300
    Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 18:56 -0400
      Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-10-03 12:11 +0300
        Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-03 23:06 +1300
          Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <ant0n.txt@gmai1.c0m> - 2018-10-03 14:58 +0300
            Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:08 +1300
        Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:06 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:13 +0300
            Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:26 -0700
  Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 02:59 +0100
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 08:57 +0200
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 08:59 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 21:54 +0100
        Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 23:26 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 22:41 +0100
          Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 02:23 +0100
        Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 14:59 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 03:04 +0100
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 09:01 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 22:01 +0100
  Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 21:44 +0200
    Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:48 -0400
  Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 23:15 +0300
    Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 13:35 -0700
      Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 00:14 +0300
        Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 23:15 +0100
          Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 23:28 +0300
        Re: Counting lines of a file James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-10-03 19:39 -0400
          Re: Counting lines of a file Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-10-04 15:31 +0000
    Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 01:05 +0100
  Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-04 14:04 +0200
    Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 15:48 +0100
  Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-05 18:29 +0200
  Re: Counting lines of a file Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 07:50 -1000
    Re: Counting lines of a file Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 07:54 -1000
    Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-16 12:51 -0700
      Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-12-16 20:51 +0000
        Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-16 14:40 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-12-16 21:50 +0000
            Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-16 15:38 -0800
            Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-16 20:29 -0700
              Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-12-18 21:03 +0000
      Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-16 21:17 +0000
      Re: Counting lines of a file Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:13 -1000
        Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-16 23:11 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 22:05 -1000
          Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-17 11:52 -0800
            Re: Counting lines of a file luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 16:01 -0800
              Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-17 17:35 -0800
                Re: Counting lines of a file fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 15:54 -0800
              Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-17 20:01 -0700
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-12-18 07:44 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2018-12-18 09:29 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-18 13:18 +0100
              Re: Counting lines of a file James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-18 06:10 -0800
                Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-18 08:12 -0700
            Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 07:47 -0800
    Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-16 20:41 +0000
    Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-12-17 15:18 +0000

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