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Re: Counting lines of a file

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Counting lines of a file
Date 2018-10-03 16:05 +0200
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On 03/10/18 15:25, Bart wrote:
> On 03/10/2018 13:49, David Brown wrote:
>> On 03/10/18 13:07, Bart wrote:
>>> On 03/10/2018 11:48, Queequeg wrote:
>>>> jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In that case it is OK.
>>>>> I am using Unix since 25 maybe 30 years, I do not remember exactly.
>>>>> And
>>>>> I have never seen a file with a newline in its name.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, my program will work in 99.9999999% of the cases.
>>>>
>>>> And malicious attacker will use one of these 10e-8% cases.
>>>>
>>>>> I remember a text by Ritchie, where he spoke about the two
>>>>> approaches to
>>>>> software.
>>>>
>>>> Your approach should be:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Thank you, I didn't know about newlines, I'll change my program.
>>>> 2. Thank you, I wasn't aware of -print0, I just learned something.
>>>
>>> My approach would be:
>>>
>>> 1. Fix the newline problem in Linux
>>>
>>
>> 1. There is no "newline problem" in Linux.
>>
>> 2. Newlines can be useful in filenames, from a user's viewpoint.  People
>> sometimes like to have long names with spaces, newlines, and other
>> things that look nice on their desktop.
> 
> It doesn't seem to be a problem with Windows. File names can be made to
> flow like paragraphs if needed, with newlines inserted at word breaks.

There is no problem in Linux either.  You can put spaces in file names,
and a gui program or file manager can split the filename to fit the
space better.

It turns out that on Windows (Win7, anyway) you can't put line breaks in
filenames.  I don't know if that is a restriction of the filesystem (I
tested with NTFS) or the OS, or if you can get around it using the POSIX
interfaces.

> 
> I mean, I'd quite like to embedded a movie clip in my filename [which
> means a few hundred MB of binary data], or change my name by deed poll
> to include newlines, tabs, and leading spaces, but it's not going to
> happen.
> 

Don't you think that is a /little/ extreme?

> We are talking about names, and names can reasonably be expected to have
> some restrictions.

Why?  They should have as few restrictions as practically possible.  It
is precisely the lack of restrictions that meant pretty much everything
on *nix systems worked fine with UTF-8 even though the code was written
long before UTF-8 was invented.

> 
> Just having spaces is a big enough problem. But at least a space just
> about counts as printable character.

So do line breaks.

I am not arguing that it is a good idea to put line breaks, or even
spaces, in your filenames - it makes them more awkward to use from the
command line.  I am arguing that the OS should not add unnecessary
restrictions, and they certainly are not a "security feature" as has
been suggested.

> 
>> 3. Newlines (and carriage returns) are valid in Windows too, AFAIK.
> 
> I don't think so. Creating a new file via fopen() will fail if the
> filename has an embedded newline character.
> 

Yes, so it would appear (after I tested a little).


> The same program works under Linux. Which also displays the newline as
> '?' so there doesn't seem much point. (A GUI will show the newline, but
> it will do that anyway when the name is too long and it needs to split it.)

How the newline is displayed depends on the program doing the display.
Shells, guis, file managers are just programs in Linux - they are not
special or part of the system.

> 
> IMO such things belong in the file itself. If the mere title of a file
> can have exactly the same content that you normally find in the file,
> then why bother with having actual files? Just have filenames!
> 

I regularly have files with no content - 0 sized files can definitely be
useful.  I wouldn't use them for something that needed more than one
line, however.

>> 4. The best way to handle these things is to have the minimum possible
>> assumptions,
> 
> I think the best way is not to be pander to unreasonable or too
> open-ended specifications.
> 
> How long can a filename be? Could it conceivably exceed available RAM?
> If so, do you need to write a program so that it can deal with that
> possibility?

I have regularly had the "joys" of dealing with Windows programs that
put artificial limits on the size of filenames or paths.  It is /so/
much fun when a program creates folders so deeply nested or with such
long names that Windows explorer can't handle them, because the program
is written by the good folks that brought us "640 KB should be enough
for anyone".


> 
>> 5. The entire Linux world, its history and its installed base is not
>> going to change details of its valid file names to suit /your/ needs.
> 
> This is what comes from not speaking up.
> 

No, it comes from not inventing problems where there are no problems.

> (BTW, the file I created on Linux using the filename "abc\ndef" as
> written in the source. How do refer to that file on the Linux command
> line? Because:
> 
>    cat abc\ndef
> 
> Doesn't work. Nor does 'cat "abc\ndef"'. Nor does 'cat abc?def' when
> other files match that filespec.
> 
> And neither does:
> 
>    cat abc
>    def
> 
> (Well, this tries to open "abc", which might work, then tries to run "def")
> 
> See why an actual newline is a bad idea here?)
> 

cat 'abc
def'

should work in bash.  Also type "cat ", then use tab completion.  Other
shells may handle it differently.

Sure, such filenames are inconvenient - and they are rarely a good idea.
 But if I gave you a file called "skål" you would also have a lot of
trouble trying to type the name from the command line.  Does that mean I
should not be allowed to use Norwegian letters in my file names?

An OS is supposed to provide the capabilities - not to impose policies
about what is a good idea or not for any particular person or situation.

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  Re: Counting lines of a file Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2018-10-02 16:45 -0400
    Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-03 09:51 +1300
      Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 22:55 +0200
        Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 14:31 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:39 +0200
            Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 16:39 -0700
              Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 08:49 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 11:46 -0700
      Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-02 21:04 +0000
        Re: Counting lines of a file dave_thompson_2@comcast.net - 2018-12-14 17:52 -0500
          Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-12-15 08:14 +0000
      Re: Counting lines of a file Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-10-02 21:24 +0000
        Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:32 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2018-10-03 10:44 +0000
            Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 13:17 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-03 14:35 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 14:25 -0700
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 22:54 +0200
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:43 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Andreas Perstinger <andipersti@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:35 +0000
  Re: Counting lines of a file Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-10-02 20:56 +0000
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:00 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-10-02 21:13 +0000
        Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-02 23:28 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2018-10-03 10:48 +0000
            Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 12:07 +0100
              Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-03 14:49 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 14:25 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-03 16:05 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-03 14:17 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 16:53 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-03 16:07 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 15:12 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 11:23 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 20:42 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 12:03 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 21:45 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:52 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 13:26 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 15:37 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 15:06 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 21:48 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 15:28 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-10-04 14:16 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-04 11:09 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-04 22:00 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 21:18 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 20:28 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 21:59 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 21:10 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-04 15:53 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-05 00:09 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-05 02:06 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-04 22:40 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 21:13 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 23:09 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-05 07:47 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-05 09:44 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-05 12:41 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-05 16:01 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-10-22 13:58 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-22 16:44 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file jadill33@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 09:10 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-05 13:17 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2018-10-03 11:34 -0700
            Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 13:14 +0200
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 00:59 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-04 08:57 +0200
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 20:05 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 10:58 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 04:06 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 15:35 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 11:48 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 15:30 +0100
              Re: Counting lines of a file queequeg@trust.no1 (Queequeg) - 2018-10-04 21:35 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-05 07:35 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file Ike Naar <ike@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2018-10-06 23:56 +0000
            Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-07 09:13 +0200
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-10-11 22:14 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ralf Damaschke <rwspam@gmx.de> - 2018-10-11 23:14 +0000
              Re: Counting lines of a file antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2018-12-17 20:17 +0000
  Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 13:59 -0700
    Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-02 23:07 +0100
      Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 00:08 +0100
      Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-02 16:51 -0700
  Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:47 -0400
    Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-10-03 11:57 +0300
      Re: Counting lines of a file James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-10-03 06:30 -0400
        Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:37 +0300
      Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:20 -0700
        Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:33 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:55 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 22:33 +0100
            Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 17:43 -0400
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 02:49 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 22:06 -0400
                Re: Counting lines of a file gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-10-04 05:20 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2018-10-04 02:45 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 14:42 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 11:27 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2018-10-04 03:40 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 15:17 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 18:13 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 17:47 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-04 20:49 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2018-10-05 16:52 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-05 01:49 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-05 12:08 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 03:24 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 03:47 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 14:41 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 15:05 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 20:08 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-06 13:02 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 15:51 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-06 17:15 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-06 13:22 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-06 22:27 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-07 11:55 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-07 00:02 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-07 12:10 +1300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-07 01:33 +0100
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                Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-08 12:20 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 21:51 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2018-10-06 12:52 -0700
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                Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-06 22:01 +0100
                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-06 13:17 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2018-12-17 20:50 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 23:09 +0300
                Re: Counting lines of a file Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 04:02 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 00:29 +0300
              Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 13:22 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:00 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-10-04 15:30 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:34 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 09:27 -0700
                Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:04 -0700
            Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 22:50 +0100
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:30 +1300
              Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 15:41 -0700
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                Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 13:01 +1300
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                Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 18:23 -0700
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          Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:57 -0700
            Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 22:19 +0100
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          Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <ant0n.txt@gmai1.c0m> - 2018-10-03 14:58 +0300
            Re: Counting lines of a file Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:08 +1300
        Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:06 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:13 +0300
            Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 05:26 -0700
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    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 08:59 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 21:54 +0100
        Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 23:26 +0200
          Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 22:41 +0100
          Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 02:23 +0100
        Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 14:59 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 03:04 +0100
    Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 09:01 +0200
      Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-03 22:01 +0100
  Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-03 21:44 +0200
    Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:48 -0400
  Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 23:15 +0300
    Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-10-03 13:35 -0700
      Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 00:14 +0300
        Re: Counting lines of a file Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-10-03 23:15 +0100
          Re: Counting lines of a file Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 23:28 +0300
        Re: Counting lines of a file James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-10-03 19:39 -0400
          Re: Counting lines of a file Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2018-10-04 15:31 +0000
    Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 01:05 +0100
  Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-04 14:04 +0200
    Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-10-04 15:48 +0100
  Re: Counting lines of a file jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2018-10-05 18:29 +0200
  Re: Counting lines of a file Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 07:50 -1000
    Re: Counting lines of a file Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 07:54 -1000
    Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-16 12:51 -0700
      Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-12-16 20:51 +0000
        Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-16 14:40 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-12-16 21:50 +0000
            Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-16 15:38 -0800
            Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-16 20:29 -0700
              Re: Counting lines of a file Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-12-18 21:03 +0000
      Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-16 21:17 +0000
      Re: Counting lines of a file Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:13 -1000
        Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-16 23:11 -0700
          Re: Counting lines of a file Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 22:05 -1000
          Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-17 11:52 -0800
            Re: Counting lines of a file luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 16:01 -0800
              Re: Counting lines of a file Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-17 17:35 -0800
                Re: Counting lines of a file fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 15:54 -0800
              Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-17 20:01 -0700
              Re: Counting lines of a file Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-12-18 07:44 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2018-12-18 09:29 +0000
                Re: Counting lines of a file David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-18 13:18 +0100
              Re: Counting lines of a file James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-18 06:10 -0800
                Re: Counting lines of a file rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-18 08:12 -0700
            Re: Counting lines of a file "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 07:47 -0800
    Re: Counting lines of a file Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-16 20:41 +0000
    Re: Counting lines of a file scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-12-17 15:18 +0000

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