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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?

From abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?
Date 2018-08-17 21:16 -0700
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On 8/17/2018 2:31 PM, nospam wrote:
> abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> wrote:

> [Long group dissertation snipped] apple knows what the breakdown is.

They certainly do. At Target this afternoon I found two kinds of Apple
EarPods for sale. One with a Lightning connector and one with a STANDARD
connector. Apple ain't no fool...

>> my local stores carry STANDARD headphones in droves

> most of which are not as good as the ones bundled in the box.

Ah, there's that "MOST" word again. Besides surveying millions of Apple
users about what headphones they use, you also came and surveyed all the
headphones that are available in my local stores too??

> bluetooth headphones are outselling wired headphones,

A bit misleading since that's in DOLLAR sales. Wired headphones are
still numerically outselling Bluetooth headphones.

> While the headphone category saw a 7 percent year-over-year increase
>  in dollar sales for the first half of 2016, Bluetooth headphones saw
>  double-digit growth with a 42 percent year-over-year increase in 
> dollar sales for the first half of the year.

> some [Bluetooth headphones] have 5-8 hours runtime

Wired headphones have FOREVER run time.

> and recharge in their carrying case

Wired headphones require NO charger.

> and are as loud as wired headphones

That would depend on the phone's audio amp power output feeding the
wired headphones. In my case wired is louder.

> google pixel phones don't have the crapware that other makers add

Crapware on my phone was a pain for me for a few days at the start. But
after a little work it's not been a problem since. I certainly wouldn't
base a phone purchase on it. And the Pixel has had its own problems.

> people complained about wireless charging not being as fast as wired
>  charging.

I charge my phone overnight so wireless charging has never had any
issues for me. But if there's ever a problem I can always drag out the
Turbo charger that came with the phone and bring it up in 15 minutes...

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Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-16 17:58 -0700
  Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2018-08-16 20:19 -0500
    Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arthur Conan Doyle <lab@rules.com.invalid> - 2018-08-17 09:07 +0100
    Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-17 06:12 -0700
      Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 15:24 +0000
        Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 10:15 -0700
          Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 13:30 -0400
            Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 11:01 -0700
              Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 14:42 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 13:26 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 17:31 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 23:13 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 21:16 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 00:36 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 22:19 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-18 19:00 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 10:12 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 08:13 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 11:58 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 10:09 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 13:41 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 22:00 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 15:22 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:20 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 06:26 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:18 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:32 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:51 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 04:05 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 01:01 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 05:34 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-19 10:01 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 15:35 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 00:16 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 20:21 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 23:20 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-19 10:55 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-20 10:30 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-19 21:44 -0700
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 09:54 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:18 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:32 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-18 22:14 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:26 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:42 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-18 22:45 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:52 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-18 22:55 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-19 06:48 -0700
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 15:38 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 23:45 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-19 19:33 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-20 10:36 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-19 21:44 -0700
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
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              Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:55 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-19 17:16 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-19 17:42 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 06:26 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 09:36 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 14:27 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:41 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:42 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 09:53 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 17:14 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 13:06 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 22:48 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 12:27 -0700
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 16:45 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-21 13:53 -0500
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-21 17:27 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 15:35 -0400
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-21 13:34 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 09:53 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 07:14 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 14:27 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 07:36 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:41 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:42 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 11:08 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 08:37 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 16:04 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 18:45 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 14:27 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-21 08:52 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-20 14:55 +1200
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