Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?

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Subject	Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?
Date	2018-08-17 14:42 -0400
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In article <pl72if$1n9$1@dont-email.me>, abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
wrote:

> >> I would miss a headphone jack. However the wife has yet to complain
> >> about her iPhone not having one. Guess it's a YMMV thing...
> 
> > it has a digital headphone jack and includes headphones in the box
> 
> One size headphone fits all? No thanks. YMMV.

most people use the headphones in the box (or they use the speakers
built into the phone). there are also numerous third party headphones.

> > as well as an adapter for legacy analog headphones.
> 
> Having a headphone dongle dangling? No thanks. YMMV.

nothing dangles, other than the wires that normally would. 

> > it also fully supports all bluetooth headsets and headphones.
> 
> Bluetooth? More cost, battery charge hassle, and bulk. No thanks. YMMV.

no hassles and no bulk, nor any dangling wires to get caught on
anything. 

some even fit entirely in the ear, which is as bulk-free as it gets:
<https://i2.wp.com/www.automatedhome.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/br
agi-headphone-in-ear.jpg>

> > it's a complete non-issue.
> 
> It's an issue for me. And I suppose it is for all those others
> complaining about phones with no earphone hole.

people love to complain, yet sales keep going up as more manufacturers
move to digital headphone jacks.

analog headphone jacks are obsolete.

> > it's also nothing new. the first android phone, back in 2008, also
> > had a digital headphone jack, except that used a non-standard ext-usb
> > jack.
> 
> That type of Android phone appears to have died out. Wonder why...

it didn't.

there are currently a *lot* of android phones with usb-c headphone
jacks, including the google pixel, considered to be 'pure android', the
essential phone from andy rubin, who created android, as well as
several other major device makers, including motorola and htc as well
as several smaller and lesser known manufacturers.

<https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/04/google-dropped-the-pixels-headphone-j
ack-to-lay-the-groundwork-for-a-bezel-free-phone/>
  ³The primary reason [for dropping the jack] is establishing a
  mechanical design path for the future,² Google product chief Mario
  Queiroz told TechCrunch after the event. ³We want the display to go
  closer and closer to the edge. 

<https://www.businessinsider.com/htc-u11-life-headphone-jack-usb-c-noise-
canceling-headphones-2017-11>
  HTC ditched the headphone jack on its new smartphone ‹ but replaced
  it with something way better
...
  At this stage in the game, that's hardly a surprise. Most smartphone
  makers are ditching the traditional headphone jack to make phones
  thinner and to embrace the wireless-headphones revolution. Even
  Google, which poked fun at Apple last year for removing the headphone
  jack, got rid of it on this year's Pixel 2.
...
  But wait, it gets better: USB-C ports are able to power things that
  are plugged into them, which means that a pair of pretty standard,
  free earbuds are able to become noise canceling.

<https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-z-doesnt-have-headphone-jack>
  The Z does have a USB Type-C port, which does an excellent job of
  outputting digital audio. Our own Michael Fisher has confirmed that
  the Moto Z comes with a USB-C headphone adapter, which should convert
  the audio into analog so you can plug in the headphones you already
  have to listen to music or watch a movie or even talk on (or to) your
  phone.

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