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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?

From Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?
Date 2018-08-17 23:13 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <pl7krm$gvt$1@news.mixmin.net> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <170820181330138394%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pl72if$1n9$1@dont-email.me> <170820181442218110%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pl7b0s$pao$1@dont-email.me> <170820181731437823%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On 17 Aug 2018 14:31:43 GMT, nospam wrote:

> only the last group is affected by the change, which is why an adapter
> is included.

You missed a huge group of Apple owners
- Those who "just give up" because the hardware isn't readily available

The point is that everyone who does anything in the real world is adversely
affected by the "courageous" lost functionality when they need to use a
headphone but where they can't use the speakers and where they haven't
taped an "emergency kit" to their backside just so that their iPhone works
when needed to.

In the fake world of the "walled garden", there's no issue with the
courageous loss of basic functionality on the newer iPhones. 

*In the real world, courageous headphone jacks are extremely useful.*

For example, you stop off at the library, and for whatever reason, you want
to listen to something for a while. You're dead if you own an iPhone.

*If you own an iPhone, you often simply "just give up" in the real world.*

At our local library, they'll lend or sell you a three-dollar set of
earphones, but if you have one of those lost-functionality courageous
devices, you simply "just give up" again (and again, and again).

*All day, every day, Apple iPhone users are forced to "just give up".*

Sure, you can carry an "emergency kit" with you everywhere you go - but
it's lost functionality no matter how you fall into the Apple MARKETING
trap of always purposefully raping the consumer under the guile & guise of
well advertised "courageous" lost functionality.

You, nospam, spit out Apple MARKETING shills daily, so you know it well.

Apple loves to *lock* the consumer into doing exactly what Apple wants the
consumer to do. Buying exqactly what Apple wants the customer to buy. Using
exactly the apps (like the iTunes abomination for example) Apple wants the
customer to use.

*Apple is extremely Orwellian and punishingly successful in doing so.*

The punishments are clear as time and again you hear the Apple user
complaining that they have to *"just give up"* on doing even the *simplest*
of things. Like Wade Garrett did last week, and, if we ever hear back from
Ant, like Ant likely did so. 

Apple isn't one of the most successful companies on the planet on
functionality - they get that money from the hapless consumers most of whom
likely who don't even comprehend that they don't have to just give up as
much as they are forced to do by Apple MARKETING decisions. 

(If you want to debate those ... just ask ... I can list a lot of basic
functionality that all other platforms have that iOS does not have.)

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Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-16 17:58 -0700
  Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2018-08-16 20:19 -0500
    Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arthur Conan Doyle <lab@rules.com.invalid> - 2018-08-17 09:07 +0100
    Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-17 06:12 -0700
      Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 15:24 +0000
        Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 10:15 -0700
          Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 13:30 -0400
            Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 11:01 -0700
              Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 14:42 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 13:26 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 17:31 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 23:13 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 21:16 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 00:36 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 22:19 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-18 19:00 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 10:12 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 08:13 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 11:58 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 10:09 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 13:41 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 22:00 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 15:22 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:20 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 06:26 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:18 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:32 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:51 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 04:05 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 01:01 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 05:34 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-19 10:01 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 15:35 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 00:16 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 20:21 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 23:20 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-19 10:55 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-20 10:30 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-19 21:44 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-20 19:13 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 09:54 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:18 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:32 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-18 22:14 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:26 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-18 22:28 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:42 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-18 22:45 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:52 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-18 22:55 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-08-19 06:48 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-08-19 14:55 +0100
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 15:38 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-19 18:24 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 23:45 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-19 19:33 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-19 10:55 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-20 10:36 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-19 21:44 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-19 18:38 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-19 13:04 +0000
              Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:55 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-19 17:16 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-19 17:42 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 06:26 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 09:36 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 14:27 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:41 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:42 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 18:43 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 09:53 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 17:14 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 13:06 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 22:48 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 12:02 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 12:27 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 13:06 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 16:45 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-21 13:53 -0500
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-21 17:27 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 15:35 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 16:45 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-21 13:34 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-20 09:53 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 07:14 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 14:27 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 07:36 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:41 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:42 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-20 11:08 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 08:37 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 16:04 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 18:45 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 14:27 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-21 08:52 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-20 14:55 +1200
        Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-08-21 22:55 +0100
  Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-08-17 12:01 -0500

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