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Re: Is the universe infinite?

From "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
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Subject Re: Is the universe infinite?
Date 2018-06-16 21:47 -0700
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On 6/16/2018 12:08 PM, David Petry wrote:
> 
> Q:  Is the universe infinite?
> 
> Scientist:  That question lies outside the purview of science.  Science deals with what can be observed and experimentally tested.  That question of whether the universe is infinite or not is best dealt with by philosophy or theology, if it is dealt with at all.
> 
> Q:  Is the mathematical universe infinite?
> 
> Concrete Mathematician:  That question lies outside the purview of concrete mathematics.  Concrete mathematics deals with what can be observed and experimentally tested (the experiments in concrete mathematics will be computational experiments).  That question of whether the mathematical universe is actually infinite or merely potentially infinite is best dealt with by philosophy or theology, if it is dealt with at all.
> 

Sci-Fi:
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If our universe is residing within a black hole that is contained within 
our parent universe, then it could be an infinite object.

Say, our parent has many viable child universes contained in various 
hyper large black holes, and we are one of them... Well, that means our 
universe has children, and they have children, and on and on. Time wrt 
the parent and the child is _radically_ different. Lets say that there 
was no first star to create a black hole... Or, was there a single 
initial start that went Hyper HUGE BANG!
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Sorry... ;^)

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Is the universe infinite? David Petry <davidlpetry@gmail.com> - 2018-06-16 12:08 -0700
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