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Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics
Date 2018-04-17 14:54 +0000
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Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 6:10:39 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote:
>> On 4/15/18 11:23 AM, Ed Lake wrote:
>>> But the point is that light is NOT waves.
>> 
>> Sure.
>> 
>>> We do not know exactly what a photon looks like or exactly how it
>>> works,
>> 
>> Sure we do. Well, physicists do (not including you, OBVIOUSLY).
>> 
>>> Experiments using single photons show that the so-called "destructive
>>> interference" patterns STILL appear. 
>> 
>> Sure.
>> 
>>> So there cannot be any
>>> "interference of quantum amplitudes" 
>> 
>> Again you display your colossal IGNORANCE. And your arrogant penchant to 
>> make GUESSES about things you know nothing about, and pretend they are true.
>> 
>> YOU have no idea what a photon actually is, and your GUESS here is just 
>> plain wrong. The quantum amplitude for a single photon does "interfere 
>> with itself" (speaking loosely), in the sense that the light/dark bands 
>> of such an experiment are accurately predicted.
>> 
>> Tom Roberts
> 
> It appears that what you are saying is that a mathematical equation can
> be concocted that will show a photon can "interfere with itself."  Maybe
> so.  But that would just confirm that a mathematical equation can be
> concocted to prove anything you want.  

Not one that agrees with hard data.

> 
> Actual EXPERIMENTS show that the photons hit the wall one at a time and
> thus there is no way for the photon to "interfere with itself."

Yes they hit the wall one at a time, and each one still interferes with
itself, because it does not take two things to interfere, no matter what
your common sense is trying to tell you about this. You are simply wrong. 

> 
> Ed
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-10 15:02 -0700
  The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-10 15:27 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 09:13 -0700
  Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 15:28 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 07:51 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 08:33 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 14:24 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-13 21:29 +0000
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 10:24 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-18 10:41 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 12:39 -0700
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-18 13:39 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-18 13:51 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 08:12 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 22:14 -0500
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Jed Serpa <iul@enwlew.lc> - 2018-04-11 15:31 +0000
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-12 04:46 +0200
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-12 15:13 +0000
  Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-11 05:47 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 08:21 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 08:36 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 10:21 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 10:32 -0700
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-11 11:02 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 13:07 -0500
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 13:19 -0500
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 11:27 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 11:37 -0700
  Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-11 05:58 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 08:23 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-11 09:19 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-11 09:32 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-11 09:39 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-12 04:52 -0700
      The DUMBEST Belief in Physics Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 11:31 +0100
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 21:52 -0500
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 20:29 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-14 06:58 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 07:13 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-14 09:25 -0500
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-14 07:44 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 07:58 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 08:32 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-15 10:32 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-15 09:27 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-16 17:57 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-15 18:54 +0200
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 10:28 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:12 -0700
  Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 13:31 -0500
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 12:19 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-13 14:56 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 16:01 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 22:16 -0500
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-13 20:24 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-14 07:29 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-14 15:29 +0000
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-15 10:30 -0500
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-15 09:23 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 20:38 +0000
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-16 18:10 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-16 21:17 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-17 07:11 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 14:54 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-17 08:26 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-17 08:55 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 14:24 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-17 20:06 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-18 08:42 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 10:30 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-19 21:17 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 14:29 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-19 21:41 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 19:22 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-20 07:44 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:38 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 14:59 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 19:22 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 23:53 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:55 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 14:13 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-21 05:57 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 23:39 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:46 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:41 -0700
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                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-22 07:45 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-22 08:58 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:47 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:41 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:44 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-23 16:33 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:32 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:42 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-18 09:56 -0500
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            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-15 18:34 +0200
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            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-15 09:37 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 20:39 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 13:49 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 22:01 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 15:24 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 15:31 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 16:38 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-18 16:44 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-18 17:01 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 08:15 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-19 08:44 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 08:59 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-19 09:22 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-19 09:31 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-04-19 10:39 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-19 18:31 +0200
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-19 09:58 -0700
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                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-19 21:35 +0200
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-19 13:47 -0700
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                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 19:59 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-21 01:12 +0200
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics KronosPrime@outlook.com - 2018-04-22 12:06 -0700
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                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-18 21:15 -0500
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