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Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics

From Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics
Date 2018-04-19 21:17 +0000
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JanPB wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 8:43:00 AM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote:
>> I assume that by "sci-pop metaphors" you are referring to "the #1
>> dumbest idea in physics," that scientists routinely LIE to the public
>> by using simplistic terms that mean something very different from what
>> the scientists actually believe.
>> http://oldguynewissues.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-10-dumbest-ideas-in-
physics.html
> 
> Without mathematics all you can discuss is metaphors. This is enough for
> certain types of discussion but it happens to be an impossibility to use
> them as a foundation for any criticism of physics or its methods. You
> can only critique certain mundane aspects like how the CERN is funded or
> how the peer-review process is, say, faulty at such-and-such journal,
> and the like.

You put tears and soul in that mathematics, as such it would be the answer 
to everything. Allegedly in making predictions, but they are not really 
prediction, since the future is not yet happened. Moreover, and this is 
essential, predictions are all about CAUSALITY, which in turn is destroyed 
by relativity at high speeds.

Happyingly, my 

*_Divergent Matter of the Moving Bodies Model_*
does not suffer from this causality limitation.

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The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-10 15:02 -0700
  The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-10 15:27 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 09:13 -0700
  Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 15:28 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 07:51 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 08:33 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 14:24 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-13 21:29 +0000
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 10:24 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-18 10:41 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 12:39 -0700
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-18 13:39 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-18 13:51 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 08:12 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 22:14 -0500
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Jed Serpa <iul@enwlew.lc> - 2018-04-11 15:31 +0000
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-12 04:46 +0200
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-12 15:13 +0000
  Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-11 05:47 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 08:21 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 08:36 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 10:21 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 10:32 -0700
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-11 11:02 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 13:07 -0500
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 13:19 -0500
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 11:27 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 11:37 -0700
  Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-11 05:58 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-11 08:23 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-11 09:19 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-11 09:32 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-11 09:39 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-12 04:52 -0700
      The DUMBEST Belief in Physics Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 11:31 +0100
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 21:52 -0500
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 20:29 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-14 06:58 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 07:13 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-14 09:25 -0500
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-14 07:44 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-04-14 07:58 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-14 08:32 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-15 10:32 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-15 09:27 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-16 17:57 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-15 18:54 +0200
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 10:28 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:12 -0700
  Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 13:31 -0500
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 12:19 -0700
    Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-13 14:56 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-13 16:01 -0700
      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-13 22:16 -0500
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-13 20:24 -0700
        Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-14 07:29 -0700
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-04-14 15:29 +0000
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-15 10:30 -0500
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-15 09:23 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 20:38 +0000
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-16 18:10 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-16 21:17 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-17 07:11 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 14:54 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-04-17 08:26 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-17 08:55 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 14:24 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-17 20:06 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-18 08:42 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 10:30 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-19 21:17 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 14:29 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-19 21:41 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 19:22 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-20 07:44 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:38 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 14:59 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 19:22 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 23:53 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:55 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 14:13 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-21 05:57 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 23:39 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:46 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:41 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 09:50 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 16:13 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-22 07:45 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-22 08:58 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:47 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:41 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:44 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Erálnì Histickému <no@ovmwk.gn> - 2018-04-23 16:33 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:32 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:42 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-18 09:56 -0500
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-18 08:40 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-18 08:57 -0700
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-15 18:34 +0200
          Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-04-15 09:08 -0700
            Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-15 09:37 -0700
              Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 20:39 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 13:49 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-15 22:01 +0000
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 15:24 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-15 15:31 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 16:38 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-18 16:44 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-18 17:01 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 08:15 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-19 08:44 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 08:59 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-19 09:22 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-19 09:31 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-04-19 10:39 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-19 18:31 +0200
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-04-19 09:58 -0700
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-04-19 19:57 +0200
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-04-19 21:35 +0200
                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-19 13:47 -0700
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                Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-18 21:15 -0500
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      Re: The #8 DUMBEST Belief in Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-17 20:03 -0500
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