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| From | Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch.embedded |
| Subject | Re: QF72 story - wow |
| Date | 2017-05-18 00:27 +0300 |
| Organization | TGI |
| Message-ID | <ofif21$4e8$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 17.5.2017 г. 23:03, rickman wrote: > On 5/17/2017 2:43 PM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote: >> On 17.5.2017 г. 18:54, rickman wrote: >>> On 5/17/2017 11:13 AM, Reinhardt Behm wrote: >>> ...... >>>>> Don't worry about the details, consider the statistics. Computers >>>>> only >>>>> need to be better than people and so far they have been for driving >>>>> cars. >>>>> >>>>> If you have 1 in 1E6 chance of dying with a human pilot and a 1 in 1E7 >>>>> chance of dying with a computer pilot, which will you choose? >>>> >>>> When sitting in that plane over NYC my preferences would be clear. >>>> Against >>>> all statistics. >>> >>> This is such a perfect example of emotion ruling over logic. Thank you. >> >> No it is not. Just the statistics are based on incomplete or invalid >> data. >> >> Here is an example why. Fewer people die in plain crashes per >> person*distance than in car crashes, this is known. >> However the percentage of idiots among pilots is a lot lower than >> among drivers; I am sure the results will be different if the same >> comparison is made say for planes vs. buses on reputable bus lines. > > You are mixing issues. If you compare cars vs. airplane, that is cars > vs. airplanes. What do busses have to do with anything? I am sure you see the point, you just choose denial. > >> Then there are nowhere near enough data to make the stats on human >> pilots vs. autopilots on similar enough planes, it will all be below >> the noise floor. > > And yet the data is there and it is clear. No it is not. > > >> Completely automated planes are a good idea a target which must be >> pursued but humanity is not there yet, not by a long stretch. >> Then given how *messy* todays software is I don't see it done any >> time soon. > > We don't know the future. But again, you are discussing your emotions, > not the facts. Not at all, where did you see any emotion in that. > > >> I know I would want to have access to all the controls - debugging >> included... - if I flew an autopiloted plane *I* have programmmed - and >> my software is anything but messy. > > If you have no confidence in your code, I certainly don't. I'm staying > off of Popoff airlines. You are trying to be smart because you understand you are wrong now, OK. I am sure to understand my point well enough - which is that I would choose to have control even over my software which I deem safer than anyone elses. Dimiter ------------------------------------------------------ Dimiter Popoff, TGI http://www.tgi-sci.com ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/
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Re: QF72 story - wow Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2017-05-15 16:05 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-05-15 21:58 +0800
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Re: QF72 story - wow Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-05-15 18:00 +0100
Re: QF72 story - wow Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 17:49 -0500
Re: QF72 story - wow David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 09:06 +0200
Re: QF72 story - wow upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-16 19:46 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:41 -0400
Re: QF72 story - wow Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-05-17 23:13 +0800
Re: QF72 story - wow rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 11:54 -0400
Re: QF72 story - wow Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2017-05-17 21:43 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 16:03 -0400
Re: QF72 story - wow Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2017-05-18 00:27 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 19:56 -0400
Re: QF72 story - wow upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-16 19:30 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 23:05 -0500
Re: QF72 story - wow Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-05-17 23:05 +0800
Re: QF72 story - wow rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:25 -0400
Re: QF72 story - wow Przemek Klosowski <przemek@tux.dot.org> - 2017-05-18 12:45 +0000
Re: QF72 story - wow upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-16 19:10 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2017-05-16 19:48 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow lasselangwadtchristensen@gmail.com - 2017-05-19 17:40 -0700
Re: QF72 story - wow Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-05-15 12:34 -0500
Re: QF72 story - wow Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 17:21 -0500
Re: QF72 story - wow rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:47 -0400
Re: QF72 story - wow Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-05-17 10:31 +0100
Re: QF72 story - wow Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-05-17 22:20 +0800
Re: QF72 story - wow rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:36 -0400
Re: QF72 story - wow George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2017-05-15 17:28 -0400
Re: QF72 story - wow Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 17:22 -0500
Re: QF72 story - wow Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2017-05-16 10:51 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow Clifford Heath <clifford.heath@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 18:01 +1000
Re: QF72 story - wow upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-16 18:54 +0300
Re: QF72 story - wow Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 23:23 -0500
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