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Re: Why Have Medical Insurance?

From Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Why Have Medical Insurance?
Date 2017-05-13 08:05 -0700
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On 5/13/2017 7:38 AM, amdx wrote:
>> As I said elsewhere, I'd gladly keep paying "high rates" *if* it acted
>> to protect me from NEEDING care (sadly, it can't).  So, the only control
>> I have over what gets paid out is by adjusting my lifestyle to avoid
>> things that could lead to expensive care (avoid smoking, control weight,
>> exercise, etc.), encourage others to do likewise (to reduce the amount
>> that I -- and everyone else lumped in the same group with me -- get
>> charged to cover THEIR care) and *hope* for the best.
>
>   Good luck with that.

I can't think of anything else that I can do to keep myself healthy
AND keep the costs for my health care down.

>> I see what toll (financial, psychological, emotional) health issues have
>> taken on friends and colleagues -- often consequential to their personal
>> choices but also often "bad luck"/genes.  I'd much prefer to stay as
>> healthy as I *can* -- and wonder why others don't think likewise (but,
>> hey, its their choice; I'd rather pay my "share" of their healthcare than
>> live with their debilitating conditions, etc.)
>
>  Just as a toss in, my son was the victim of a hit and run...
> by a bicyclist. Knocked him out for a short time, someone called an ambulance
> that took him to the hospital. Xrays and stitches in his leg and head. I was
> running through the billing codes and noted the emergency room added 1-1/2" to
> his head laceration which was an extra charge vs the shorter laceration. I
> didn't complain, but it did piss me off.

Hard to know whether that was an "honest mistake" or a deliberate fraud.

I spent an afternoon in an ER many years ago.  Got a bill with 4 "extra"
line items on it:  the first two were things I clearly didn't have done
(I mean *clearly* -- like "amputate left leg" and "apply cast to right leg")
and the next two were CREDITS for those first two items.  WTF?  You not
only mistakenly bill me for two things but then credit me for them?  Why
not just remove them from the bill entirely??

<shrug>

> Also, my daughter showed up about 24
> hrs after he got out of the ER and found they didn't clean him up at all. His
> hair was blood matted, his body had several scrapes and bruises not cleaned.
> My daughter cleaned him up. She called me to report he is minimizing the
> extent on his injuries.

And, of course, *he* didn't care -- he just "wanted to go home"!

>  She was out of town when it happened and lives 2 hrs from him, I'm 4-1/2 hrs
> from him. I offered to come to him, and offered to bring him to my home for
> recuperation. "no I'll be alright dad" and he is.

Glad for that.  *Any* visit to the hospital is fraught with risk -- from
the CARE GIVERS!  (hint:  always have an advocate with you if hospitalized)

SWMBO worked for one of the local hospitals for many years.  Usually, in pretty
significant offices -- where she was privy to lots of stuff they don't want
disclosed (i.e., "There will be no minutes taken in this meeting;  we'll decide
what we're going to write down AFTER we're done!")

She'd come home with all sorts of horror stories -- both from that hospital
and information shared from the other 8-10 hospitals in town.

I expect people to make mistakes -- "they're only human".  But, I also expect
folks to put in place processes and procedures to try to minimize the number of
those mistakes and their consequences.  In the case of her hospital, they
were self-insured.  So, every employee effectively got their hospital-related
care from THAT hospital (huge financial disincentive to go elsewhere).

With that in mind, you (*I*) would think the employees would be extra diligent;
wanting to give the *best* care cuz it's likely that some of their colleagues
are receiving care, there, each day!  And, someday, they may find themselves in
that position as well!  (do they think the conscientiousness of their fellow
employees will magically improve just before *they* need care?  why -- if it
isn't improving now as their colleagues need care?)

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