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Re: Why Have Medical Insurance?

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Why Have Medical Insurance?
Date 2017-05-10 23:03 -0400
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On 5/10/2017 10:04 PM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 5:20:21 PM UTC-4, dca...@krl.org wrote:
>> On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 4:27:31 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
>>>
>>> So what is the point of medical insurance if your rates can be jacked up
>>> when you get sick or the condition you are sick with can be removed from
>>> the coverage?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Rick C
>>
>> I think you need to review the proposed law.  My understanding is that if you had a pre existing condition you could be charged more for one year and after a year of being covered your payments would be lowered as if you had no pre existing condition.
>>
>>                                    Dan
>
> Correct.  The "late enrollment penalty" adds 30% to your premiums, for
> one year.
>
> http://files.kff.org/attachment/Proposals-to-Replace-the-Affordable-Care-Act-Summary-of-the-American-Health-Care-Act

The states have flexibility to make changes to these rules.  They can 
decide to allow insurance companies to charge higher rates and to not 
cover "preexisting" conditions for some period of time.

"The American Health Care Act stipulates that states can allow insurers 
to charge people with pre-existing conditions more for health insurance 
(which is banned under the ACA) if the states meet certain conditions, 
such as setting up high-risk insurance pools. Insurers still cannot deny 
people coverage outright, as was a common practice before the ACA's 
passage, but they can hike up premiums to an unaffordable amount, 
effectively pricing people out of the market.

"In fact, premiums could reach as high as $25,700 per year for people in 
high-risk pools, according to a report from AARP. People who receive 
insurance through their employer would not be affected, unless they lost 
their job or moved to the individual insurance market for some other 
reason."

The part I don't really get is how this is a big improvement over the 
ACA.  They are talking about spending "$138 billion over a decade set 
aside for high-risk pools".  That may be a lower number than what the 
ACA would cost over a decade, but is it really worth it?  How much is 
this going to muck up the works?  Why go from a system where people just 
plain get insurance to one where they can get insurance, but have to go 
here if this and there if that?

The ones who don't care about any of this are the majority who have 
insurance through their employers.  I recall a conversation with one of 
mine where they explained that if you had a disabling medical condition 
you would be fired after some time (it takes 6 months to claim on 
disability insurance if you have it) and after that you are on your own. 
  Even COBRA runs out at 18 months.  Then your only option is one of 
these plans.  You don't know what will happen to you.

One thing every health care professional knows, sometimes you are better 
off leaving things alone than going in to try to "fix" it.  The more you 
mess with it, the worse it gets many times.

If we are going to keep fucking with the health care of the US, why not 
do something that actually FIXES it instead of doing a Doctor Willard 
Bliss?

-- 

Rick C

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Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 16:27 -0400
  Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-05-08 14:20 -0700
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                Re: Why Have Medical Insurance? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 13:35 -0400
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